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    You know what I hate about caregiving resources?

    They are 90% aimed at people caring for older people, usually people with dementia of some sort. It may be aimed at adult children, spouses or parents, but always elderly or otherwise dying. Places like wellspouse.com and thefamilycaregiver.com etc etc. Its not that I think they are bad sites, its just that the vast majority of the materials and members are aimed at / interested in elderly caregiving.

    MY HUSBAND IS NOT DYING. I don't plan for him to die for a VERY long time. And he's 42, not 82. And no, having an afternoon off isn't going to help me one bit. Not that anyone in a "community resource" setting would - his care is too "specialized" they say.

    Anyway, I just wanted to vent about that. You are now being returned to your regular programming.

    p.s. please don't skewer me for this rant .... i know that these caregiving websites and groups DO have some useful things for people like me. Just not very many. I just had to get that off my chest.

    p.p.s. double triple pretty please don't skewer me .... (i'm paranoid!!)
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    Zillazangel, I doubt anyone would even think of skewering you for the rant! The advice to take an afternoon off is stock counsel because there's so little else anyone can say or do nowadays, regardless of whether caregiving is short- or long-term...funding is shrinking fast, trained aides are few and far between, personal pocketbooks are strained beyond belief. We live in truly parlous times, and my hat is off to everyone here for doing the best they can in each moment.

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    I've come to the conclusion that the home health agencies want is to help old ladies to the commode and cut their toast.

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    Linda, rueful LOL!

    Another thing I wonder about, is whether plain old denial has something to do with this. People might want to distance themselves from the knowledge that the need for intense caregiving could actually happen in their lives, as well as those of faceless others. I see this all the time in the reactions of former friends, who can't bear to face the possibility that they might not be playing tennis in 5 years' (or even 5 minutes') time. Extending those local/individual reactions outward to society at large, maybe there's very little stomach (and therefore support) for reality in our society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LindaT View Post
    I've come to the conclusion that the home health agencies want is to help old ladies to the commode and cut their toast.
    Yep. I tried working for one once. They charged $25/hr((then)) & of course insurance didn't pay because it wasn't a necessity. Plus,I got fussed @ for helping a client in the shower & helped dry her off. Wtf? I thought the point would be to help them be independent &stay at home.I was more less a housekeeper/

    A friend called medicare to help with adl's, they suggested a nursing home. Much cheaper,eh?!

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    OMG, YES, exactly!!!

    What I need is two fold: someone who can do what chad *would* do if he weren't disabled, and someone to help me take care of him.

    Point 1: someone to mop the floors, make dinner, mow the lawn, trim the hedges, take out the trash, take the car for an oil change, walk the dog, run to the store, KILL LARGE BUGS, change lightbulbs up on a ladder, fix the leak in the toilet, fix the garage door that croaked, take himself to his appointments, etc etc.

    Point 2: haul chad's butt into the shower, wash him, shave him, give him a haircut, clean up the bathroom once done, change the sheets, wash them, fold them, put them away, put new mattress pad and sheets on, brush his teeth, put on a new cath bag (oh, and change the sp cath while you're at it will ya?), wash out the old bag with water, then bleach, then water, do bowel care, put on his pants, socks shoes, get him in the chair, put on his shirt, deodorant, brush his hair, put in eyedrops, scratch his head, position him in the chair, fill up the water bottle, make him lunch, feed him lunch, give him his medications, set up the computer for him, give him his mouthstick, ....

    Oh wait, they just want to sit and "visit". For $40/hour (out of our pocket 100%). I don't think so! And for $10/hour we still can't afford, we usually get lazy no good steal from us and show up late / drunk / high attendants.

    Anyway, yeah. What you said!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zillazangel View Post
    OMG, YES, exactly!!!

    What I need is two fold: someone who can do what chad *would* do if he weren't disabled, and someone to help me take care of him.

    Point 1: someone to mop the floors, make dinner, mow the lawn, trim the hedges, take out the trash, take the car for an oil change, walk the dog, run to the store, KILL LARGE BUGS, change lightbulbs up on a ladder, fix the leak in the toilet, fix the garage door that croaked, take himself to his appointments, etc etc.

    Point 2: haul chad's butt into the shower, wash him, shave him, give him a haircut, clean up the bathroom once done, change the sheets, wash them, fold them, put them away, put new mattress pad and sheets on, brush his teeth, put on a new cath bag (oh, and change the sp cath while you're at it will ya?), wash out the old bag with water, then bleach, then water, do bowel care, put on his pants, socks shoes, get him in the chair, put on his shirt, deodorant, brush his hair, put in eyedrops, scratch his head, position him in the chair, fill up the water bottle, make him lunch, feed him lunch, give him his medications, set up the computer for him, give him his mouthstick, ....

    Oh wait, they just want to sit and "visit". For $40/hour (out of our pocket 100%). I don't think so! And for $10/hour we still can't afford, we usually get lazy no good steal from us and show up late / drunk / high attendants.

    Anyway, yeah. What you said!
    I missed this. this isnt actually an impossible request. I can do all off those things except get him in and out of anything. I see so much complaining around here about unemployment. and before I was injured I did just that kind of job for two years, so I know its not too hard to do a good job and enjoy it. I only made ten bucks and hour though but started at eight. holy cow 40 bucks an hour? how bout that?

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    Do you have a teenager in your neighborhood? A teen would be over-joyed to make $10 an hour by doing the little things on your list. Just make a chore list that you think will take an hour, and ask the teen if they will accept the task on a regular basis. What I am saying is, don't pay the kid $10/hour, tell them you expect the chores to be completed in about an hour, and that is what you will pay. Otherwise, the teen will lollygag over the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoFla View Post
    Do you have a teenager in your neighborhood? A teen would be over-joyed to make $10 an hour by doing the little things on your list. Just make a chore list that you think will take an hour, and ask the teen if they will accept the task on a regular basis. What I am saying is, don't pay the kid $10/hour, tell them you expect the chores to be completed in about an hour, and that is what you will pay. Otherwise, the teen will lollygag over the job.
    Not to be rude, but you are SO 100% wrong about that. We have tried and tried and TRIED and no one wants this job. And the ones that take it? Doesn't matter if they are nursing students, college students, flippin' Mother Teresa .... after a few months they flake out and quit or worse. And when we do have an aide, we pay by the task, not the hour. Still doesn't help .... LindaT and MSWIfe knows that I speaks da truth!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zillazangel View Post
    Not to be rude, but you are SO 100% wrong about that. We have tried and tried and TRIED and no one wants this job. And the ones that take it? Doesn't matter if they are nursing students, college students, flippin' Mother Teresa .... after a few months they flake out and quit or worse. And when we do have an aide, we pay by the task, not the hour. Still doesn't help .... LindaT and MSWIfe knows that I speaks da truth!
    I wished I lived closer to you...since moving into the condo...I miss cutting the lawn, trimming, etc. I would do those things so that you could spend more time with medium boy and Chad. I loved riding my riding lawnmower (once I figured out how to get my happy butt on it), and I love being outdoors. I hope your luck will change and that you find someone who would be happy helping out!
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