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Thread: Microcyn Bladder Treatment (An Open Letter to Dr. Young)

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    Quote Originally Posted by lynnifer View Post
    Care - February 27th colostomy post looks like it was an accident .. otherwise I don't ever remember a Care Thread being locked?
    Political Forum - Most recently the Trump thread but it's been a long time there too.

    I'd hardly call that a 'lock down?' The good ole days saw three posts locked per week! lol

    in the very very early days, all the posts here were lost as the person who provided the funds for the site took all of the info with them claiming it was theirs. That was before I stumbled upon this site though so I am fuzzy on details.
    This thread CLOSED some time around 7/12/17 with out one word of explanation. Not an accident! No name calling...no bullying...nothing pejorative...just shut...shut...shut!!!

    Absolutely nothing like the crap in the political forum.

    My take...a moderator with, pardon the expression, a hard on..vendetta!

    http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/showthr...light=microcyn

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    It was not proven in clinical trials ... how can you expect a researcher to host what turned out to be a giant advertisement for something with only anecdotal evidence?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lynnifer View Post
    It was not proven in clinical trials ... how can you expect a researcher to host what turned out to be a giant advertisement for something with only anecdotal evidence?
    That is not a reason for the thread to have been closed without explanation. And there have been may other threads that discuss Microcyn Technology and they have not been shut done. And as it turns out there is some evidence of verasity if you will read post #90 here: http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/showthr...crocyn+zealand


    I've been doing more searching, studying and reading, delving into new places for more information about the uses of Microcyn Technology.

    I happened upon an S-1 statement (initial registration form for new securities filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission) document filed November 21, 2014 and Form 424B2 Prospectus Filed Pursuant to Rule 424, Filed Jan 22, 2015, by Sonoma Pharmaceuticals (Oculus Innovative Sciences then) for 6,250,000 Shares of Common Stock and Warrants to Purchase 4,687,500 of Common Stock. I drilled down through the prospectus (these statements would make an insomniac fall alseep) and came across a section entitled:
    Current Regulatory Approvals and Clearances
    The following table summarizes our current regulatory approvals and clearances:

    http://ir.sonomapharma.com/secfiling...1019687-15-298

    The table is set up to report Region or country (of clearance), Type of Clearance or Approval, Year of Approval or Clearance and Summary of the indication/approved use. Microcyn Technology is approved in some 19 countries and the European Union for cleaning, irrigation, moistening, debridement and removal of foreign material from wounds, sterilizing medical instruments, wound and burn management. Then before my tired eyes, under the country of Mexico, I found a product named Microdox 60, has Medical Approval as a Medical Device, issued in 2014, for an antiseptic solution for treatment of bladder and urinary tract infections (Microdox 60 "Registered Trademark"). The FDA (Food and Drug Administrartion)-like Mexican agency is the Comisin Federal para la Proteccin contra Riesgos Sanitarios (COFEPRIS). COFEPRIS has a large mandate, overseeing not only medical devices but also the safety and import of drug and food products into Mexico.

    I also found that Microdox 60 bears the "CE Marking" (abbreviation of French phrase "Conformit Europene" which literally means "European Conformity") of the European Union. CE Marking on a product is a manufacturer's declaration that the product complies with the essential requirements of the relevant European health, safety and environmental protection legislation, in practice by many of the so-called *Product Directives
    1. *Product Directives contains the "essential requirements" and/or "performance levels" and "Harmonized Standards" to which the products must conform. Harmonized Standards are the technical specifications (European Standards or Harmonization Documents) which are established by several European standards agencies (CEN, CENELEC, etc). CEN stands for European Committee for Standardization. CENELEC stands for European Committee for Electrotechnical Standardization.
    2. CE Marking on a product indicates to governmental officials that the product may be legally placed on the market in their country.
    3. CE Marking on a product ensures the free movement of the product within the EFTA & European Union (EU) single market (including totally 30 EEA countries),
    4. CE Marking on a product permits the withdrawal of the non-conforming products by EEA customs and enforcement/vigilance authorities.

    With this as an exciting lead, I searched the internet for Microdox 60 and found references in Australia and New Zealand.

    In Australia, a medical supply and equipment company named BrightSky has the product named Microdox UTI (under the Oculus Innovative Sciences label) for sale for $19.99 AUS$ for a 500 ml bottle. You can see more information at this link:
    http://www.brightsky.com.au/BrightSk...xUTI500ml.aspx

    A New Zealand pharmaceutical company, TeArai BioPharma appears to have the license to produce Microdox 60 as a Urinary Medical Device. The website describes Microdox 60 and its usage (See below). https://www.microheal.co.nz/microdox There is a link to a Usage Card. I've attached an image of the card. https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/575e1...e97fe45900.pdf

    From the TeArai BioPharma website about Microdox bladder and catheter irrigation solution:

    Urinary Tract Infections (UTI)s are often painful infections of any part of your urinary system ? your kidneys, ureters, bladder and urethra.

    UTIs are very common, especially in women and people that require catheter use.
    * UTIs are the second most common type of infection

    * Approximately 30% of people with SCI (Spinal Cord Injury) experience 3 or more UTIs each year
    * UTIs are a key area of antibiotic use and antibiotic resistance
    * UTI causing bacteria often form a biofilm - a collection of bacteria that are more difficult to manage
    Practical information


    Microdox is a ready to use, pH netural super-oxidised solution (SOS).
No mixing or preparation is required prior to use.
Microdox has an unopened shelf life of 24 months form manufacture.
Once opened use Microdox within 60 days.
It may be useful to record the opening date on the outside of the Microdox bottle.
Microdox has no special disposal requirements. Use or unused solution may be disposed of straight to drain or toilet.
The empty Microdox bottle may be included in recycling.
    Use as directed and if symptoms persist see your health care professional
    Bladder irrigation is mainly utilized in people requiring the use of catheters.
    If bladder irrigation is new to you please consult your Urologist or other Healthcare Professional.
    Microdox Super-oxidised solution (SOS) is a Medsafe* listed and TGA* registered Medical Device. Microdox bladder and catheter irrigation solution is use for the prevention and treatment of Urinary Tract Infection (UTI)


    *Medsafe is the government of New Zealand Medicines and Medical Devices Safety Authority, responsible for the regulation of medicines and medical devices in New Zealand. They ensure that medicines and medical devices are acceptably safe.
    *TGA is the Australian Government, Department of Health, Therapeutic Goods Administration. responsible for regulating therapeutic goods including prescription medicines, vaccines, sunscreens, vitamins and minerals, medical devices, blood and blood products. Almost any product for which therapeutic claims are made must be entered in the Australian Register of Therapeutic Goods (ARTG) before it can be supplied in Australia.

    I contacted both BrightSky and MicroHeal and asked them to send me the ingredients list from the label of Microdox60. Essentially, the ingredients are the same as for Theracyn and HydroCleanse. Water: 98.837%, Sodium chloride: 0.010%, Sodium phosphate: 0.062%, Sodium sulfate: 1.082%, Ancillary substances: Hypochlorous acid: 0.009%.

    This is all very new and enlightening information for me. Please note that the Microdox 60 Usage Card recommends an amount (50 cc), that few of use. Most of us use much less per instillation. As long as what you are using is working as you would like it to, I see no reason to change your routine. Further, I don't advocate using Microcyn Technology to try to cure a urinary tract infection (UTI). I know of one anecdotal case (Susanne Lewis's husband) who cured a UTI using 60 cc instillations of Microcyn every 4 hours around the clock. I would prefer to see anyone who presents with UTI symptoms to get to their primary care or urologist (who ever cares for these for you) and get a specimen to a lab for a urinalysis (UA) and culture & sensitivity (C&S) to find out which bacteria is causing the UTI and which antibiotic is most effective in killing that bacteria. Then, I suggest after taking a 12 to 14 day course of antibiotic that you get another UA and C&S to make sure the infection is cured. This is just good standard practice. Hopefully, however you won't be getting frequent and recurring UTIs when you try to prevent them with these instillations. And another note... daily instillations may not be necessary. You will need to experiment to find what works for you. Some people have reported using these instillations every time they intermittent cath. Some have reported using instillations once a day, some, every other day, some longer in between instillations.

    One can ask the question, why don't Microdox 60 or other Microcyn Technology products have FDA (Food and Drug Administration) approval for use as an antiseptic solution for treatment of bladder and urinary tract infections? I don't know. Sonoma Pharmaceuticals doesn't take me into their confidence about their business plan. I've made a couple contacts (as have other Care Cure Community members) who on a limited basis will answer some questions. I can only speculate the approval process and trials required by the FDA are more expensive and burdensome than a rather small company can take on at this point in their corporate journey.

    Note: The Vbulletin software doesn't allow for accent marks in foreign words. If the French and Mexican regulatory bodies identified above aren't spelled as speakers and readers of these languages would expect, it is because I removed the "?" this software substituted for diacritical markings, the registered trademark symbol or the "CE " symbol.

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    To all who may be interested, the long thread about Microcyn Technology, originally started by Leila (Susanne Lewis) has been reopened and has some new and interesting news about the counterparts to the FDA in the United States in Mexico, New Zealand and Australia who have permitted the use of Microcyn Technology as a bladder flush, in the form of Microdox 60 and Microdox UTI. Check it out!

    Thank you KLD for reopening this thread.

    With best regards to all,
    GJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by lynnifer View Post
    It was not proven in clinical trials ... how can you expect a researcher to host what turned out to be a giant advertisement for something with only anecdotal evidence?
    Advertising? No if someone were advertising Microcyn they would post huge images of the product and repeatedly attack people who disagreed with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brent K View Post
    For any of you that uses Theracyn instillations, this is a good deal on purchasing it. https://www.horse.com/Search.aspx?query=theracyn
    is there a difference in the Theracyn wound and skin care sprays for - livestock, horses, pets and poultry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beckman View Post
    is there a difference in the Theracyn wound and skin care sprays for - livestock, horses, pets and poultry?
    Microcyn, HydroCleanse, MicrocynAH, and Theracyn all contain the proprietary formulation developed by Sonoma Pharmaceuticals, Inc. This formulation includes electrolyzed water, sodium chloride, sodium hypochlorite, and hypochlorous acid. There is little if any difference in the Theracyn formulations for different types of livestock.

    Take a look at this page:
    https://www.mannapro.com/products/cattle/cattle-wound-care/theracyn-wound-skin-care-spray-hydrogel

    If you click on the picture of the bottles, you will see the labels for poultry, cattle, horses, dogs, and goats. Scroll further down the page to the descriptions of Theracyn Wound and Skin Spray and Hydrogel. The ingredients are listed for the spray and gel products. For bladder instillation, make sure you are ordering the spray product. Also pay attention to the volume you are buying. These products come in 8 and 16 ounce sizes.
    Last edited by gjnl; 04-06-2018 at 05:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gjnl View Post
    Microcyn, HydroCleanse, MicrocynAH, and Theracyn all contain the proprietary formulation developed by Sonoma Pharmaceuticals, Inc.
    Thank You

    In an earlier post I see you were using the pink eye formulation. Is it still working for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beckman View Post
    Thank You

    In an earlier post I see you were using the pink eye formulation. Is it still working for you?
    Yes, it is.

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    ANECDOTAL !!! You have to be kidding me. Was sending someone here to check it out. It works as I said throughout this thread and many others also. IT may not work for you, if you use it wrong. It is a SOLID alternative to those who value good health and do not want to use antibiotics. There were many whom it did not work out for, for some reason. I recommend you give it a try.
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