View Poll Results: How will Swine/H1N1 flu affect your life?

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  • I will avoid large crowds and take the H1N1 vaccine if it is available to me.

    8 20.51%
  • I will avoid large crowds and not take the H1N1 vaccine if offered.

    3 7.69%
  • I will not avoid large crowds and will take the H1N1 vaccine if available to me.

    9 23.08%
  • I will neither avoid large crowds nor take the H1N1 vaccine as the risks of swine flu.

    9 23.08%
  • I'm taking a wait and see approach because H1N1 has not affected my community and hopefully won't.

    6 15.38%
  • You only live once -- why worry? Pass the popcorn.

    4 10.26%
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Thread: Swine/H1N1 Influenza

  1. #31
    Did you have cases of polio in the United States in 1962? I thought all children started to be vaccinated for polio in when I was small when we had the last cases of polio here. I have been through three rounds of vaccination of polio,when I was 3-4-5 month, when I was in the first grade of school and in the seventh grade and the same has my children.

    The vaccine for the measles is the dangerous one but it is more dangerous to get the measle. Most children don't get autisme but a few do but nobody knows how sick those children would have been if they got the measles.

    And now we have the discussion here about the vaccine for cervical cancer that they have plans to give all girls when they are 13. I am happy I don't have to take any stand about it because the last vaccine they were given to the teens for meningitis as a trial, show that enough of the children who got it, got ME 10 years later. None of mine as got that one, they started after my children were finished the 9th grade.

    And the swine flu has not muteted yet, it is still the same. Are we sure it will mutate?
    TH 12, 43 years post

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    Quote Originally Posted by woman from Europe View Post
    And the swine flu has not muteted yet, it is still the same. Are we sure it will mutate?
    Bente ... it had to mutate to become the Swine Flu H1N1(A). It came from something here on earth. It will change again.

    It didn't come from aliens ... or maybe it did?

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  3. #33
    LOL, are you sure

    No, but it hasn't muteted later and that what they are afraid of and if a lot of people takes the vaccine, it will mutate. But I am thinking loud, I am discussing with myself here because nobody know what will happen.
    TH 12, 43 years post

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    Dr Wise posted a good article aout WHO and the CDC crying wolf. A good read and I not taking it just taking precations as usual.

  5. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Tiger Racing View Post
    You might want to find a more credible organization that isn't obsessed with the "New World Order.". Also, I'm not sure how saying that a pandemic did not occur after millions of people had been vaccinated shows that vaccinations are not a good idea.


    The idea of dying from a preventable disease because of ignorant hysteria is far more sickening to me.


    Have they disproven a link between chocolate and autism? No? Let's sue Hershey!!


    Do you realize that the reason that there were so few cases of polio in the United States in 1962 is that the vaccine had been administered nationwide for about a decade?

    C.
    I would put my money on it that because of all the vaccinations, we will see a super polio strand and we will really be in trouble. No disease is preventable, and therein lies the problem. Have we not learned that yet? Go ahead, pay your money and die of a disease caused by a drug.

    They don't know what causes autism, but there appeared to be a correlation between autism and vaccinations. My point was that they hadn't found a link, but they also haven't disproved it. Maybe chocolate is linked to Autism, but we don't know for sure it isn't! The thing about it is, if I were a parent, I would want to know that there have been cases of children who are well, who were diagnosed with Autism, or died, or became paralyzed or turned purple (whatever the effect may be) after having a vaccine. Give the parent the knowledge, the information and that stats and allow them to make the decision--knowing all risks.

    What I am trying to get across is that media and our government's have hyped up the swine flu so much, creating so much panic and hysteria, and have decided we all need to be vaccinated for it, allowing for people to hear just that and do it. Leaving out that fact that if you do things like, washing your hands regularly, eating properly, drinking lots of water, etc to protect yourself like you would any other flu, you won't have to worry.

    Lets keep in mind here that humans are the cause for viral and bacterial mutations (antibiotics). I am going to go out on a limb here and assume that H1N1 WILL mutate, and we will need another vaccine for that strand the following year-- Its an ongoing battle. Just like influenza! It mutates every year, so therefore they create a new vaccine for it.

    As for H1N1, I have really been doing as much reading about it as I can. I thought this was interesting.
    http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...type_h1n1.html
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    But twenty years later, in January 1976, a weird epidemic touches Fort Dix military base, in New Jersey: 230 soldiers are affected, and one dies. Research shows that a new type of H1N1 is responsible, and that it originates from a strain of swine flu affecting the pigs in the area. The American government panics and 40 million people are vaccinated. But 532 people develop an auto-immune disease linked to the vaccine and 32 die from it. Meanwhile, the flu epidemic seems less serious than feared and appears to be limited to the military base. The initial panic was apparently unnecessary.
    I just see this particular vaccine as a money grab for the pharmaceutical companies. Why would the states find it necessary to have a court dedicated only to cases that deal with vaccines if they are 'safe'..?

    Mom, don't worry, I'm not holding it against you that you took the liberty and allowed them to inject me with poison .
    This is a good discussion. Carol, you're making the wheels turn in my head. This is good.


  6. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by wheelchairTITAN View Post
    Bente ... it had to mutate to become the Swine Flu H1N1(A). It came from something here on earth. It will change again.

    It didn't come from aliens ... or maybe it did?
    Of course it came from Aliens! They put us here in the first place!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Julie-Bug View Post
    Of course it came from Aliens! They put us here in the first place!
    Note to self ... add this one to my where I came from file.

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  8. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Julie-Bug View Post
    I would put my money on it that because of all the vaccinations, we will see a super polio strand and we will really be in trouble. No disease is preventable, and therein lies the problem. Have we not learned that yet? Go ahead, pay your money and die of a disease caused by a drug.

    They don't know what causes autism, but there appeared to be a correlation between autism and vaccinations. My point was that they hadn't found a link, but they also haven't disproved it. Maybe chocolate is linked to Autism, but we don't know for sure it isn't! The thing about it is, if I were a parent, I would want to know that there have been cases of children who are well, who were diagnosed with Autism, or died, or became paralyzed or turned purple (whatever the effect may be) after having a vaccine. Give the parent the knowledge, the information and that stats and allow them to make the decision--knowing all risks.

    What I am trying to get across is that media and our government's have hyped up the swine flu so much, creating so much panic and hysteria, and have decided we all need to be vaccinated for it, allowing for people to hear just that and do it. Leaving out that fact that if you do things like, washing your hands regularly, eating properly, drinking lots of water, etc to protect yourself like you would any other flu, you won't have to worry.
    While doing those can help, it's not a gaurantee. You could still get the flu. Even the vaccine doesn't prevent you from getting the flu. It just helps you fight it better if you do get it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Julie-Bug View Post
    Lets keep in mind here that humans are the cause for viral and bacterial mutations (antibiotics). I am going to go out on a limb here and assume that H1N1 WILL mutate, and we will need another vaccine for that strand the following year-- Its an ongoing battle. Just like influenza! It mutates every year, so therefore they create a new vaccine for it.
    Antibiotics cause the super strains. I don't think the flu vaccine is an antibiotic so it's not going to create any super strain. The flu virus mutates, that's just what it does. Same with the cold virus.

  9. #39
    Antibiotics cause the super strains.
    Antibiotics themselves are not the problem. It's the improper use of antibiotics -- over- and inappropriate-prescribing, stopping the medication mid-treatment, etc. -- that have fostered the development of MRSA and other multi-resistant bacteria.
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  10. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by thehipcrip View Post
    Antibiotics themselves are not the problem. It's the improper use of antibiotics -- over- and inappropriate-prescribing, stopping the medication mid-treatment, etc. -- that have fostered the development of MRSA and other multi-resistant bacteria.
    You took my words way out of context.

    My point was, had it not been for the introduction of antibiotics, we wouldn't have the super strains.


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