View Poll Results: How will Swine/H1N1 flu affect your life?

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  • I will avoid large crowds and take the H1N1 vaccine if it is available to me.

    8 20.51%
  • I will avoid large crowds and not take the H1N1 vaccine if offered.

    3 7.69%
  • I will not avoid large crowds and will take the H1N1 vaccine if available to me.

    9 23.08%
  • I will neither avoid large crowds nor take the H1N1 vaccine as the risks of swine flu.

    9 23.08%
  • I'm taking a wait and see approach because H1N1 has not affected my community and hopefully won't.

    6 15.38%
  • You only live once -- why worry? Pass the popcorn.

    4 10.26%
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Thread: Swine/H1N1 Influenza

  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Tiger Racing View Post
    There has never been a scientific link between vaccines and autism. The course of events that led so many people to believe there is one is rather bizarre. I've read a few comprehensive articles on this issue in the past year and also read the original studies used to make the assertion. I sympathize with any parent seeking answers for their child's illness, but urging other parents to NOT vaccinate their children is wrong.

    C.
    Paranoia will often override the common good. Like you, I'm not certain there is a link as well. For example, Jenny McCarthy, who I love and admire for her dedication to her child, claims when he was vaccinated, she saw his soul leave his eyes. That strikes me as odd. Is it possible for a vaccination to cause the onset of autism immediately upon being injected with a solution?


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    Some of us don't have any of the choices in the poll.

    The students, faculty and admin have started to return and we will all be in full contact in the next few weeks on a daily basis.

    As for me I have been getting the universal flu shot, the one set by geo-regions for as long as it has been available and will be getting it this year as soon as it is available.

    As for the Swine Flu vaccine - H1Ni(A) I will be getting both shots as soon as they are available. Two shots ... as in the initial and then the follow up booster a short while later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Type Fran├žais View Post
    Paranoia will often override the common good. Like you, I'm not certain there is a link as well. For example, Jenny McCarthy, who I love and admire for her dedication to her child, claims when he was vaccinated, she saw his soul leave his eyes. That strikes me as odd. Is it possible for a vaccination to cause the onset of autism immediately upon being injected with a solution?
    There is no link betwen any vaccine and autism.

    The autism people also claim in adverts that 1 in 150 are diagnosed with autism? What does this mean? Two totally different issues.
    So much for any truth in advertising even by people who use not-for-profit money to push their views.

    I am with TigerRacer on this one concerning the claim vaccines sucking the soul out of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Type Fran├žais View Post
    Paranoia will often override the common good. Like you, I'm not certain there is a link as well. For example, Jenny McCarthy, who I love and admire for her dedication to her child, claims when he was vaccinated, she saw his soul leave his eyes. That strikes me as odd. Is it possible for a vaccination to cause the onset of autism immediately upon being injected with a solution?


    My sister has a co-worker who also says that she knows undoubtedly that a vaccination is what brought on her sons autism. Prior to the immunizations he was a normal, bubbly 2 year old, afterwards; not so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffie View Post
    My sister has a co-worker who also says that she knows undoubtedly that a vaccination is what brought on her sons autism. Prior to the immunizations he was a normal, bubbly 2 year old, afterwards; not so much.
    Fair enough, Buffie, but my questioning was largely about the timing. Is it possible within seconds of receiving the injection Jenny saw the onset of autism in child? Even if the injection did make her child autistic, I'm questioning the injection's quickness on the brain's chemistry.

    My friend Christina has two disabled children. One was born with autism and another with Downs Syndrome. She is a dedicated mother who jokes that God has a sense of humor because her children's needs are like ying/yang. She did have a third child born completely healthy and actually is showing a superior intellect for her age. Her children should be studied in my opinion.


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    ..... to study your friends' children would be indeed be fascinating Todd !

    I thought you had to show proof of vaccination before entering the public school system in Canada too HipCrip but I stand corrected .. see here :

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...0162743AATH8Ci

    Julie and I have had some "spirited" discussions regarding the vaccine debate .. I'm still not convinced! But I have done some research and lets just say I'm not quite as sure as I once was either..... I'd probably still vaccinate my kids today though .. simply based on the odds. However I think one of the reasons the issue is intensifying is that - because of the vaccination programs implemented so long ago - very few people have seen children and adults suffering and dying from diseases like whooping cough, pertussis, measles etc. and don't know how scary and awful they are ... we've lost the fear and take it for granted. People used to die regularly from these diseases as a matter of course.

    Anyway the jury is still out on this one for me .... but I'm always open for the discussion !! I'm not big on compulsory anything to tell you the truth ... especially a flu vaccine that hasn't been properly tested . My philosophy has always been to fight these bugs on our own and build up the immunity .. but the flues around us now are stronger and more virulent (due to the overuse of antibiotics ) so in our house Bill will probably take the shot again too of his own free will. Compromised immune systems don't have so much of the fight left in them.

    And Julie you won't need to worry about getting polio either which way .... because you're already vaccinated ... sorry ..... please don't sue me !! I've always taken so much pride in how healthy all you kids have been .... probably attributed to a few good genes and a little good luck !!

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    I agree with Obione here. I have been vaccinating all my kids too, most people do it here, but I was wondering yesterday about the vaccine against the swineflu. Why do Americans die out of it? It is a lot of people with swineflu just now here but nobody has died. I read in the newspaper today that 3 people in whole Norway are on a vent because of it but nobody has died.

    Can the reason be that so many people is taking the flushot every year in the US so the immune system is low? I am only getting sick when I have a UTI and my immune system is low, flu 1,5 winter ago and the swine flu in Santa Fe. I have taken all the children shot when I was small, I have taken vaccine for Hep A and Hep B because I did voluntary work with prostitutes and drug addicts some years and most of them had it but I have never taken any other vaccine. And I have just denied Tomas' father to give him the vaccine for swine flue or give him Tamiflu since they say the Tamiflu is dangerous for children.

    I have been angry though, because my doctor doesn't want to give me the flu shot, I had to go to the hospital when I had it, but maybe it is not so good for me. I mean, I am a low para, do I need it? I honestly don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woman from Europe View Post
    I agree with Obione here. I have been vaccinating all my kids too, most people do it here, but I was wondering yesterday about the vaccine against the swineflu. Why do Americans die out of it? It is a lot of people with swineflu just now here but nobody has died. I read in the newspaper today that 3 people in whole Norway are on a vent because of it but nobody has died.
    Lots that the governments are NOT telling us about the H1N1(A) flu.

    The big start of the pandemic in the northern regions is just coming as the winter season is the peak for flu antibodies. The flu has been growing in the southern regions this year and it will be back here in the north in greater ways.

    The possibility of mutation in the H1N1(A) is the thing we really need to be concerned about because, as you indicated the results so far seem to be minimal however because H1N1(A) is a new strain NEVER seen in the world before last year. A variant or mutation is the thing we all need to be more concerned about hence the call to try and slow this down with vaccines.

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  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Buffie View Post
    My sister has a co-worker who also says that she knows undoubtedly that a vaccination is what brought on her sons autism. Prior to the immunizations he was a normal, bubbly 2 year old, afterwards; not so much.
    Correlation does not equal causation.

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  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Julie-Bug View Post
    Well the risk of paralysis, death or near death seems worth the choice to not vaccinate.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=14312
    You might want to find a more credible organization that isn't obsessed with the "New World Order.". Also, I'm not sure how saying that a pandemic did not occur after millions of people had been vaccinated shows that vaccinations are not a good idea.

    The idea of forced immunization is sickening.
    The idea of dying from a preventable disease because of ignorant hysteria is far more sickening to me.

    They also haven't disproved a link.
    Have they disproven a link between chocolate and autism? No? Let's sue Hershey!!

    I'm VERY comfortable with my odds of NOT contracting polio.
    Do you realize that the reason that there were so few cases of polio in the United States in 1962 is that the vaccine had been administered nationwide for about a decade?

    C.

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