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    Preventing Hospital-Acquired Infections

    Many studies have shown that the #1 method most important for the prevention of hospital-acquired infections (often drug resistant) is consistent and effective hand hygiene on the part of caregivers and visitors. The CDC is encouraging hospitals to show this short film (or podcast) to all patients admitted to the hospital (which is what we are doing now where I work). It is also applicable to family, agency, or PCA caregivers in your home.

    Take the time now to look at it now:

    http://www.cdc.gov/handhygiene/Patie...ion_Video.html

    (KLD)

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    Have to agree on this. I've had 2 UTI's in almost 5 years of this nightmare. Got both of them at the hospital. One almost killed me.
    oh well

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    I had MRSA 4 times, twice it was systemic, and almost kicked it. It seames that what you say is true. I was in the U of W the last 4 times, and they have a RIGOROUS hand and rehab cleaning system, and it worked. The previous infections happened at a diff, hospital.So everyone be sure to wash, coming and going to see someone.

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    If the nurses had washed their hands with soap and water instead of squirting their hands with disinfectant, my wife would have been less likely to get a C. diff. infection.
    Comes to that, given better hygiene, maybe she wouldn't have gotten the infection from the PICC line during chemotherapy that led to 2 spinal abscesses requiring surgery that led to severe kyphosis that led to more surgery that left her paraplegic.
    - Richard

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    Quote Originally Posted by rfbdorf View Post
    If the nurses had washed their hands with soap and water instead of squirting their hands with disinfectant, my wife would have been less likely to get a C. diff. infection.
    Comes to that, given better hygiene, maybe she wouldn't have gotten the infection from the PICC line during chemotherapy that led to 2 spinal abscesses requiring surgery that led to severe kyphosis that led to more surgery that left her paraplegic.
    - Richard

    BTW, a spammer (lacewigs) seems to have inserted itself above; perhaps a mod could kindly disinfect this thread.
    ....thanks, moderator!
    Re C Diff the key does seem to be SOAP AND WATER. My wife had terrible case of C Diff during recent 160 days of hospitalizatioon post pneumonia. Her new primary physician attended a seminart on C Diff recently and says the incidence of C Diff spiked in the recent past coinciding with the near universal adoption at health care facilities of antibacterial cleansers hung from all the walls, doorways, etc. Health care providers would move from patient to patient carefully cleansing their hands with disinfectants which were ineffective against C Diff - had they used soap and water other patients would have been protected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ancientgimp View Post
    Re C Diff the key does seem to be SOAP AND WATER. My wife had terrible case of C Diff during recent 160 days of hospitalizatioon post pneumonia. Her new primary physician attended a seminart on C Diff recently and says the incidence of C Diff spiked in the recent past coinciding with the near universal adoption at health care facilities of antibacterial cleansers hung from all the walls, doorways, etc. Health care providers would move from patient to patient carefully cleansing their hands with disinfectants which were ineffective against C Diff - had they used soap and water other patients would have been protected.
    if you read most sanitizers inclining liquid and hand sanitizer. bathrooom sanitizers for ever room sanitizer.. .
    most state it will disinfect if left wet for 10 minutes on non-porous surfaces.

    the forst time i read instructional odnhand sanitizer, it stated at least a couple minutes and to let air dry for that time/


    who does this----------- no body
    cauda equina

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    see the new c diff treatment i posted last night,

    i posted a new c diff treatment i saw on med page on this forum last night, it sounds strange, but check it out and you can always get more info from the people doing this technique. it is weird though, transplant of feces, but they said they had success.i will come back and edit with the link
    cauda equina

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    Our local hospital has policies in place about hand washing and hygiene -- non-compliance by caregivers triggers disciplinary action. I have to assume that licensed nurses are, at some point, taught about the importance of hand hygiene, and that they are, at a minimum, aware that super-resistant bacteria like MRSA pose a real threat to patients and staff alike.

    So I am incredibly frustrated that, despite all this, I have to police my caregivers about washing their hands before they interact with me. I've found that the number of nurses and nurses aides who don't follow proper procedure is so high that I'm afraid to use an overnight bag when hospitalized out of fear that someone who hasn't cleaned their hands properly will empty it while I'm asleep and expose me to infection. (That's how I first got pseudomonas.)

    The first -- and only -- time I used an overnight bag at my local hospital was when I spent two days on a gurney in the ER while I waited for a bed to become available upstairs. When I called a nurse to empty the bag for me, I actually had to fight with her to get her to clean her hands or put on gloves before touching my bag. On my first remark that she needed to wash her hands, she asked me if I was going to buy her hand lotion because washing her hands made them too dry. When I replied that I had hand lotion in my bag that she was welcome to use after she washed her hands and finished with my bag, she went off on a rant that included a lecture that she was a hundred times more likely to 'catch something nasty' from me than I am from her. I promptly reported her to doctor who directed the ER, who just happened to be on duty that night.

    There is no excuse for patients needing to educate medical professionals about the need for hand hygiene and monitor their compliance with it.
    It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience.

    ~Julius Caesar


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    I am so happy I didn't go to the hospital in US, my daughter told me I wouldn't been able to go to a Norwegian hospital for a year after. And I am going to the SCI hospital in September and the first thing they asked if I had been to the hospital in the US because they are afraid of MRSA. I didn't know they were so stright. I knew the nurses and the doctors loose their job for a year, but they do get full paid.

    So thank you Addiesue for taking me to your doctor and the same to Betheny and Jill. They are so stright here. If it was an emergency they would have put me in isolation.
    TH 12, 43 years post

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehipcrip View Post

    On my first remark that she needed to wash her hands, she asked me if I was going to buy her hand lotion because washing her hands made them too dry.

    she went off on a rant that included a lecture that she was a hundred times more likely to 'catch something nasty' from me than I am from her. I promptly reported her to doctor who directed the ER, who just happened to be on duty that night.

    There is no excuse for patients needing to educate medical professionals about the need for hand hygiene and monitor their compliance with it.
    I sincerely hope this nurse was disciplined severely for her actions. As you say--there is NO excuse for this type of inappropriate behavior. If soft, pretty hands is her priority, over the health and well being of her patients, she needs to be fired so she can sit at home and lotion her hands all day. I'd report that kind on non-sense to her board of nursing. Even if she denies the statement, your statement will be part of the public record of her being investigated. Then, if in the future, a similar complaint is alleged, the board will be required to, at the very least, reprimande her license, which too will be available for the public to view. As a nurse, I don't want to see any health care provider unjustly accused of wrong doing, but the board is a powerful tool when a serious and willful violation has been committed.
    Last edited by Patty41; 07-07-2011 at 11:41 PM.

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