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    Stair climbing! who can do it!

    Any walkers out there able to handle stairs, like without guard rails? I can walk up and down stairs with guard rails, but never attempted without because if I lose balance just a little I would fall backwards and get rocked!

    I wasn't sure if you guys used a special technique or just went super slow to get up them.

    Getting down stairs without guard rails I think is impossible unless like you are almost 100% recovered because you basically have to have both hip flexors working fine and be able to bare all your weight on 1 leg while maintaining balance at a downward angle.

    For those cases I usually just ride on someone’s back or worse cases I will get on my ass and go 1 step at a time.

    Just curious if anyone has figured out a better way to get up or down them.
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    my right leg is very stiff, so i use my recovered leg (left) to go down first, then put my weight on the stiff leg, breakthru the tone, and then i use my quad to push it forward to the next step my right is already on.

    in fact I have to do it at all my friends house because THEY ALL have flights of stairs to get into their house, and I have to go up 3 steps (no guard rails) to get into my own house. but I usually use my walker place it down and just use my upper body strength to push up and down the steps. instead of my crutches. (meh I get lazy lol)

    Thats why I laugh when people call Cali accessible. sure stores are, but no residential areas....

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    Thanks Imight,

    My left leg walks on spasims so its constantly flex and what I'm worried about is if I put weight on the bad one, the spasims might kick in and I'll be HOPPING one 1 leg and then falling down the stairs haha i can picutre it now! its pretty epic.

    As soon as I graduate I'm going hardcore recovery mode so we'll see what I can get going.


    When you walk in public, do you walk 1 foot at a time, or do you hop? LIke I found in public, if I hop, and make it seem like I broke my legs, both of them like 2 crutches out in front then just swing both my legs through its super fast like you can go the same pace as someone walking and people just think u lost ur legs fighting a great white shark or somthing. But I noticed it really doesn't help with recovery other than trunk control probably.
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    Start with the lowest. widest steps you can find, and maybe 2 or 3. I have four steps up onto my deck in the back yard. 4 steps plus the deck and a hill to climb before you reach the first step. These steps are wide enough for a walker, which is how I started on them, they re 12 feet wide and no railing. I've never had to ditch it on the lawn yet, now I walk up them foot after foot, and it's great hard training, just a tad dangerous, but that's the way I like it.

    You will need to work on balance, strength, cordination, and just a little bit of something located between your legs, up high between your hips! A couple of months of this, and you can probly hit the dance floor and do something your parents would remember the "The Hustle"!!!!

    Start with the easy ones [stairs] and branch out, Rome wasn't built in a day.

    Good Luck

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    hah thanks for the info guys!
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    yeah, i can go up/down stairs like crazy.....3-4 flights is about the most at once since my accident.......left leg is about 75% and right leg sucks - no foot, no knee......KAFO......pretty much walking on tone & the brace with that one......i put the left crutch a few steps up & use my right arm/crutch to bring the stiff leg {very stiff} up to match the left & then step up another with the left & then repeat. quite a workout...........i scrabble all over, on & off human-made surfaces......you do what you need to do. if there is a handrail, i'll use it downhill fo-sho, not on the climb at all.....too much crutch management.......Steve.

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    Steve,

    Thats how I get up stairs like you do but how do you get down stairs if there is no hand rail?

    because if for example I Place my 1 crutch on the stair below me and my 1 foot (the godo one) then I can't move the bad one down to the step because its stuck in straight position even though I only have an AFO on it, the tone keeps it from bending

    If there is a guard rail its pretty easy to go down stairs. I simply use 1 crutch and the guard rail to help me move my bad leg down first, theen once my bad leg is down, I bring my good leg down. My bad leg is strange, it can actually PUSH more than my good leg can, probably because its constantly running on spasims, but like on a leg press I've noticed my bad leg does more pushing than my good leg does.
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    Steve,

    Thats how I get up stairs like you do but how do you get down stairs if there is no hand rail?

    because if for example I Place my 1 crutch on the stair below me and my 1 foot (the godo one) then I can't move the bad one down to the step because its stuck in straight position even though I only have an AFO on it, the tone keeps it from bending
    i just "pre-load" the stiff leg & then weight the good one & swing the right leg off the step, it goes stiff, & i stand on it & step off with the good one........practice makes perfect....also, my KAFO keeps my knee from reaching more then a 15* angle, keeping it from fully locking out. also, my left leg is 1.75" shorter as it was crushed/re-assembled....scary as shit to start off with, fo-sho! Steve.

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    Without handrails, but with crutches -it's a tricky one for sure.
    I go sideways: then I have a downhill crutch and then my feet stepping to same stair, then down one, then feet together. with my uphill crutch acting to stabilize. I have good balance so this works for me, but it's still a little dicey. I also place the uphill crutch slightly behind and the downhill one in front to get I much prefer, one crutch and one handrail and going down the normal way, (face first! j/k) in which I only move my crutches when I'm certain my feet are solid.

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    actually renting or borrowing a crash pad like the ones they use for rock climbing and bouldering might not be a bad idea for learning, I would be bolder if I knew there was a soft landing.

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