Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 30

Thread: Baclofen cure for alcoholism

  1. #1
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Dublin, Ireland
    Posts
    118

    Baclofen cure for alcoholism

    http://www.independent.ie/health/lat...m-1566925.html


    An eminent French doctor believes he has found not just a treatment for compulsive drinking but a miracle cure.

    The claims, made by Dr Olivier Ameisen in a book which has jumped into the best-sellers' list in France, have created a huge stir in the European medical establishment.

    Fellow doctors in France and Switzerland -- often under pressure from patients -- have tested his methods and say that they were "astonished" by the results.

    Other specialist doctors and anti-alcoholism campaigners are sceptical and even angry that Dr Ameisen -- a leading cardiologist -- should claim there is a simple pharmaceutical solution to what they insist is a complex physical, mental and social disease.

    Nonetheless, anti-alcoholism clinics are being besieged by demands for treatment with the drug prescribed by Dr Ameisen in his book, 'Le Dernier Verre' ('The Last Glass'). An English translation will be published next year.

    The French government agency which tests new drugs has taken the unusual step of deciding to examine the doctor's claims -- unusual because the drug he has "discovered" is not new.

    Baclofen is a cheap drug which has long been known as a cure for muscle spasms, especially among sufferers of cystic fibrosis or people who are partly or wholly paralysed.

    Dr Ameisen says his own experience and that of other patients suggests it can also be used to ease and then destroy an intolerable craving for alcohol. It is so effective, he claims, that alcoholics can go back to social drinking without fear of renewed dependency.

    "Mine is the first case in which a course of medicine has completely suppressed alcohol addiction," Dr Ameisen said. "Now I can have a glass and it has no effect. Above all, I no longer have that irrepressible need to drink."

    Besieged

    Another doctor who has tested it is Dr Renaud de Beaurepaire of the Paul-Guiraud hospital at Villejuif near Paris.

    "I prescribed it to two alcoholics who were at the end of the road," he said. "It was pretty miraculous."

    Another alcoholism specialist, Philippe Michaud, is less convinced. "This book has really dropped us in it," he said. "We are being besieged by calls and letters from people who want the same treatment."

    - John Lichfield

  2. #2
    Baclofen is a cheap drug which has long been known as a cure for muscle spasms, especially among sufferers of cystic fibrosis or people who are partly or wholly paralysed.
    It certainly is not a "cure". It is a treatment. I think them mean cerebral palsy. People with cystic fibrosis rarely have muscle spasticity. Without it, the spasticity of course can be severe.

    I don't know about this. I have tons of patients who are alcoholics who use baclofen. Baclofen combined with alcohol can be quite dangerous, although not as much as combining alcohol and benzos like Valium. Those of my clients who are trying to get sober still have horrible cravings for alcohol even when they are on high doses of baclofen.

    (KLD)

  3. #3
    I have read a couple of articles about this and agree with KLD. While Baclofen may help some as a treatment, it is most certainly not a cure for a true alcoholic.

  4. #4
    An alcoholic carries the cure within, it does not come out until hitting rock bottom and only then works one day at a time.

  5. #5
    Senior Member rdf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2001
    Location
    Someplace between Nowhere and Goodbye
    Posts
    12,961
    It is so effective, he claims, that alcoholics can go back to social drinking without fear of renewed dependency.
    I don't believe this is possible. Once you're an alcoholic, you'll never be able to socially drink again. You might go for years being fine, but sooner or later, you'll blow it. It's the nature of the disease. Least that's what they taught in those classes I had to go to when busted for DWIs as a young fella.
    Please donate a dollar a day at http://justadollarplease.org.
    Copy and paste this message to the bottom of your signature.

    Thanks!

  6. #6
    Senior Member flicka's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    California
    Posts
    3,553
    I think it is possible that it helps some people who are alcoholic. I know some drugs work for some nicotine addicts and not for others. Also, some people become hopelessly addicted to substances and others don't, so I think much of how effective something is for us is very individual.
    ____________________

    "We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek."
    - Barack Obama

  7. #7
    I have tons of patients who are alcoholics who use baclofen... Those of my clients who are trying to get sober still have horrible cravings for alcohol even when they are on high doses of baclofen.
    This is a fascinating statement, SCI-Nurse, in view of the seemingly miraculous cure to alcoholism that is now being replicated by many patients across the globe. (OK, a miraculous placebo effect.) What are the doses of your alcoholic patients taking large amounts of baclofen? Are these oral or intrathecal? Ameisen, the author of the famous book, required 270 mg/day (3.6 mg/kg) to effect his cure.

    I might add that it is fundamentally absurd to think that alcoholism is somehow different from other afflictions, and that it is untouchable by medicine.

    In lieu of formal studies, see in English:
    http://www.mywayout.org/community/f20/
    or in French:
    http://www.e-sante.fr/fr/forums_sant...46166-29-1.htm

  8. #8
    Alcohol withdawel is not untouchable by medicine as an alcholic myself i can safely say that librium will almost completely remove withdrawel symptoms however after ordering baclofen online and putting it to the test myself it has little or no effect on craving and no effect on withdrawel other than a dangerous state of confusion .I like other alcoholics long for the day it is cured by medicine but this is simply impossible because it is a phisical and mental illness i can only can only come to the conlusion that Dr Ameisen is not an alcoholic of my type .I would beware of putting your hope into this firstly it doesn't seem to work and secondly you are simply replacing one addiction with another

  9. #9
    Senior Member TheAbleChef's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Toronto, Ontario
    Posts
    932
    I'm in France right now and the doctor I see told me the very same yhing. Baclofen can cure alcoholism but the alcohol industry is trying yo lobby against it. I don't how but he says it works.
    Never Give Up!

  10. #10
    Senior Member lynnifer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    Windsor ON Canada
    Posts
    19,320
    Quote Originally Posted by rdf View Post
    I don't believe this is possible. Once you're an alcoholic, you'll never be able to socially drink again. You might go for years being fine, but sooner or later, you'll blow it. It's the nature of the disease. Least that's what they taught in those classes I had to go to when busted for DWIs as a young fella.
    They still teach that. When David went through rehab, the saying was, "One drink is too much and a hundred is never enough."

    It's a combination psychological/medical disease.
    Roses are red. Tacos are enjoyable. Don't blame immigrants, because you're unemployable.

    T-11 Flaccid Paraplegic due to TM July 1985 @ age 12

Similar Threads

  1. Baclofen pump problems and questions
    By rob12d2 in forum Care
    Replies: 84
    Last Post: 10-27-2012, 07:58 PM
  2. Replies: 20
    Last Post: 12-12-2008, 10:50 AM
  3. Alternative to baclofen?
    By SunnyCJ in forum Pain
    Replies: 22
    Last Post: 06-28-2008, 05:17 PM
  4. Replies: 3
    Last Post: 12-28-2007, 11:25 PM
  5. Replies: 9
    Last Post: 02-25-2003, 08:49 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •