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Thread: The "Ethics" of AB's using the handicapped washroom

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    I've attempted to wait in line at concerts or other public events, highway stops, only to be goaded into going to the front of the line as soon as the handicrapper is free ... the looks that poor person (who is never disabled) gets from the crowd! I learned long ago never to 'expect' anything out of anyone.

    I don't blame anyone for using one. When ya gotta go, ya gotta go - I don't miss that pain (from the 12yrs that I remember at least). If public places applied universal design and made them ALL bigger and accessible ... but I guess we can't waste square footage on human necessities. But can't we make two? Or three?

    I hate that it's always just 'one' handicrapper. It seems half the time, that's the one that's out of order! Never fails when you're out with friends drinking (not that I've done THAT in years!)
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    Last week I was rude to someone in the bathroom bc of this. She was in the stall, all others were empty. I was talking to another lady while waiting who had to tell me her brother had a disability so I know the girl in there was listening. this other lady was washing her hands. It took this girl forever to get out. I guess she thought I'd give up and leave and save eher from having to face me. She finally comes out and said all the others were taken when I got in here. I just looked at her and said so were all the parking places. I was mean and maybe shouldn't have been. I used to take my kids in there so who am I to fuss. But you don't want toddlers in the bathroom loose while you are going and they can't always fit in with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lynnifer View Post
    I've attempted to wait in line at concerts or other public events, highway stops, only to be goaded into going to the front of the line as soon as the handicrapper is free ... the looks that poor person (who is never disabled) gets from the crowd! I learned long ago never to 'expect' anything out of anyone.
    You seriously have a problem with AB people letting you move to front of the line? Why?

    I don't blame anyone for using one. When ya gotta go, ya gotta go
    Except that most AB people DON'T need to go ASAP. That's the point. They can plan further ahead than most people with neurogenic bladders. Hence my comments about "need". I don't begrudge anyone who needs the stall. Only those people who selfishly choose the room to stretch out who don't actually need it.

    Anytime a woman comes out of that stall and apologizes to me, I know that she knows that she screwed up. When I feel particularly grumpy, I point out that mental disabilities don't count.

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    I agree with TR. It's not the worst thing ever but it is frustrating when you don't have a choice.

    One of my favourite bars has a great disabled toilet at the top of the stairs which lead to the AB bathrooms. Because of the stairs many nip in and I'm always forced to wait, bladder bursting with beer, until they come out.

    I rarely say anything, people are always sheepish and look very embarrassed.

    In many bars and restaurants they lock the disabled toilet and get you a key when you need it. This used to frustrate me but I realised that these are often the cleanest ones.
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    I have made a policy of giving a serve to people who clearly have no right to be in the disabled bathroom ( ie not disabled ,very old , or with kids ).
    The bottom line for me is that I can no more "hang on" than i can kick a field goal.

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    One of these days, I'm sure I'm going to break the toilet paper holder trying to get back up after being forced to use a "regular" stall. And, it seems nine times out of ten, the bathroom is empty except for the h/c stall, and, not once has someone with any kind of disability exited that stall.

    I admit, I also used the h/c stall when I was AB. So, I try to make someone understand without being rude. But, it's hard to stay nice when it's way more important for me to get in the stall as quickly as possible.

    I use the "term" when ya gotta go, ya gotta go with my grandson, but it's taken on a WHOLE new meaning for me in the last three years!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyCrip View Post
    This guy writes a weekly article on ethics. See 2nd Question: http://www.thestar.com/article/544941

    Last week he espoused that it is perfectly acceptable for Ab's to use the disabled washroom / stall.

    Is it? I always thought it was a faux pas... Perhaps this guy needs to be corrected.
    Many people in this thread and in CC believe that exclusion is as acceptable. Why should you be entitled to preferential use?

    Women have been waiting for years for an acceptable washroom planning process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjean423 View Post
    I don;t have a problem w/ it, if the other stalls are all busy, but as soon as someone who NEEDS it enters, they should be next in line for it. What is annoying is waiting for someone to get out of the big stall, when the others are empty and available.
    +1

    I had to wait for a guy to finish a smoke in the HC stall at a Max and Erma's joint. Turned out he worked there and was on break.

    Need comes first, IMO. I'd be happy to leak on any AB's foot who says other wise.
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    1. Why is Ken going into a ladies room?

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    I dont see a problem with other people using it... but come on, u gotta have a reason. It sucks at school when an AB is using the HC stall (because invariably they do so in order to take an incredibly long and nasty shit), but there is always another bathroom relatively close.

    The one time it has really bothered me so far was at a rest stop off the highway.

    This guy holds the door for me (thanks!) then proceeds to walk directly to the HC stall and change his clothes, then take a shit. I waited right in front of his stall the whole time. jackass.

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