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  1. #41
    Great information guys, thanks. I've been working my quad ass off with the financial markets being as jacked up as they've been for the past three or four months or so and my workouts have suffered. Last week I started to dig in again, hit the weights, etc. and I think this time I might start considering some supps to go along. Agreed, protein is key. To what degree and what goals / sacrifice depends on each individual. I applaud everyone for their efforts to stay healthy. Good luck.


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    i hear you, but i totally disagree. i would say very few ppl consume near enough protein...im very active and eat well and i dont get near enough. minimum for and active ab/dis 1 gram per pd. i shoot for around 1.5 grams per pound. thats alot of protein. for a regular gimp/or ab i say 1/2 gram per pound. so still at 185 pd guy, kinda small thats still nearly 93 grams per day. not happening w/out supps




    Quote Originally Posted by chick View Post
    My post referred to ANYONE, dis or abled-bodied, being able to get the necessary or req. protein, if eating a good, balanced diet. For a dis person, if there are no issues with eating, and if weight isn't a problem or if one is needing to GAIN weight, then getting needed or extra protein through diet is easier. If one is healing injury or sores, or if there is a problem eating and getting enough cal/nutrition thru diet alone, then supplements may be necessary.

    Anyone who is active is going to burn more energy than an inactive person, so an active person can eat more and get more protein from their diet, than if inactive.

    An AB can get even more than SCI since they can be more active AND they have more muscle groups working, especially the MAJOR muscles such as Quads, Glutes, and hamstrings, therefore can burn more energy and in turn eat more.

    Bottom line, if you're active, it should be easier to get protein from your diet, IF you eat right and eat well. If you're deficient, esp. for medical reasons, then supplementing is good idea.
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  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by fuentejps View Post
    i hear you, but i totally disagree. i would say very few ppl consume near enough protein...im very active and eat well and i dont get near enough. minimum for and active ab/dis 1 gram per pd. i shoot for around 1.5 grams per pound. thats alot of protein. for a regular gimp/or ab i say 1/2 gram per pound. so still at 185 pd guy, kinda small thats still nearly 93 grams per day. not happening w/out supps
    I would say, many people consume more protein than they're aware or even need, and likely not balanced well with carbs and fats. If you look at what foods contain protein, it's fairly easy to eat foods containing quite a bit of protein. I don't agree with you, but you do what works for you.

    Here is some more info on protein requirements, per Ideal body weight.
    • Minimum Daily Protein Requirement: W.H.O. recommends 0.45 grams of nprotein per kilogram of ideal body weight per day.
    • Maximum Daily Protein Requirement: US RDA recommends 0.8 grams of protein per kilogram of ideal body weight per day. The UK Department of Health and Social Security is approximately the same.
    1kg = 2.2 lbs.

    0.45 minimum - 0.8 maximum gr protein / 2.2lbs body weight
    so, this would be -
    0.2 gr. min. - 0.36 gr. max. protein per 1lb body weight

    If you are currently doing endurance training your daily protein requirement increases by 1 to 1.2 grams per kilogram of ideal body weight per day. However, there is no recommended daily protein requirement for weight or strength training. Additionally, the daily requirements do not increase for people over their ideal body weight. This is because amino acids are not needed to support fat cells.

    High Protein Diet - exceeding the daily maximum protein requirement
    Most people meet their daily protein requirements by many times over. In addition there is a misconception that a high protein diet is helpful for training. High protein diets do not help improve muscle strength or aid in training. In fact, high protein diets can be harmful to your health. There is far more risk to your health from high protein diet than from low protein diet.
    • Proteins have a high amount of nitrogen. When nitrogen is broken down in the liver it creates ammonia. Ammonia is poisonous. The increased level of ammonia in the body is harmful to cells and may decrease atheletic performance.
    • Stress on kidneys occurs when more than 2 grams per kilogram of ideal body weight per day is consumed.
    • High levels of protein intake require increased amount of vitamin B6. It is possible to become deficient in vitamin B6 while using a high protein diet.
    • Calcium loss, which leads to osteoporosis, occurs with high levels of protein intake.

    (read more here)

    Other sources: Harvard School of Public Health

  4. #44
    I start a thread because my protein powder tastes like cardboard and fuente and van damn become friends in it. Wow I am not ignoring this thread. There are a number of posts I want to reply to. But unfortunately I am very sort of time and energy right now. I will come back when I can. But once again thanks for the continued replies. I am learning a lot about protein and diet here that I didn't know.

    But very quickly. I am trying to heal a number of open sores (including a brand new one on my heel) plus a broken collar bone. My doctor wanted me eating a minimum of 1500 calories a day for now and I am struggling most days to even break 600 or 700. And most of those calories come, as sjean's post alluded to, from stuff like pop tarts and lattes (my lack of sensible nutrition is a topic for a whole other thread). I just find it difficult to muster an appetite most days. Although there is the rare day when I will eat a proper breakfast and dinner. But not often. I find things like shakes and smoothies easier to force down than most food. So that is where the thought that I could add some extra protein that way blending protein powder into them. But so far the ones I tried I didn't find very appealing in taste. Things like protein bars are not ideal probably. But they are high in calories and I need that. Plus they have protein and vitamins (some). And they are easy for me to eat because unlike meals, they don't require a whole lot of time consuming assistance. That last part is a very bad reason for picking a particular food item to eat but that is the reality of my life. I want something with a lot of calories that I can eat quickly and get it over with. Messed up reasoning, yes, but as you can see my whole eating/diet is very messed up.

    My only source of exercise is my FES bike which I have been unable to use now for about a year and a half due to sores and surgeries on my feet. I do hope to get back to that but I don't know when. So at my injury level I am not burning any calories with exercise, however I do have a very quick metabolism which right now isn't a grand thing. I still have not put back on most of the 35 pounds I lost following my injury. And I really need to get back at least 25 of it as I was not at all overweight when I got hurt. I started gaining some weight last spring and felt so much better. But then lost it again over the summer. And have been losing more again lately. Which is not good. I know that protein supplements like powders and bars are not the total solution. I need to do more to address my eating habits in general and find ways to make myself eat, not just eat healthier but to eat more in general. But I think for me right now they can be part of a plan to at least get me started on improving my weight and nutrition. I do like food, and despite my love of junk food, I even do like healthy things like vegan dishes...I just have a very hard time actually eating food most of the time because of no appetite. I am rambling here so I will stop.
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    Chick is closer to right on the Americans and protein issue. There is much more nitrogen in the piss of Americans than in that of most any other country in the world because excess protein in the diet is broken down into it.

    If you're looking for more energy or to bulk up with muscle and want to find a diet that will help, I strongly urge that you read as much as you can on balanced diet and the value of keeping your foods as natural as possible. With, of course, the exception of miso soup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by orangejello View Post
    I start a thread because my protein powder tastes like cardboard and fuente and van damn become friends in it. Wow I am not ignoring this thread. There are a number of posts I want to reply to. But unfortunately I am very sort of time and energy right now. I will come back when I can. But once again thanks for the continued replies. I am learning a lot about protein and diet here that I didn't know.

    But very quickly. I am trying to heal a number of open sores (including a brand new one on my heel) plus a broken collar bone. My doctor wanted me eating a minimum of 1500 calories a day for now and I am struggling most days to even break 600 or 700. And most of those calories come, as sjean's post alluded to, from stuff like pop tarts and lattes (my lack of sensible nutrition is a topic for a whole other thread). I just find it difficult to muster an appetite most days. Although there is the rare day when I will eat a proper breakfast and dinner. But not often. I find things like shakes and smoothies easier to force down than most food. So that is where the thought that I could add some extra protein that way blending protein powder into them. But so far the ones I tried I didn't find very appealing in taste. Things like protein bars are not ideal probably. But they are high in calories and I need that. Plus they have protein and vitamins (some). And they are easy for me to eat because unlike meals, they don't require a whole lot of time consuming assistance. That last part is a very bad reason for picking a particular food item to eat but that is the reality of my life. I want something with a lot of calories that I can eat quickly and get it over with. Messed up reasoning, yes, but as you can see my whole eating/diet is very messed up.

    My only source of exercise is my FES bike which I have been unable to use now for about a year and a half due to sores and surgeries on my feet. I do hope to get back to that but I don't know when. So at my injury level I am not burning any calories with exercise, however I do have a very quick metabolism which right now isn't a grand thing. I still have not put back on most of the 35 pounds I lost following my injury. And I really need to get back at least 25 of it as I was not at all overweight when I got hurt. I started gaining some weight last spring and felt so much better. But then lost it again over the summer. And have been losing more again lately. Which is not good. I know that protein supplements like powders and bars are not the total solution. I need to do more to address my eating habits in general and find ways to make myself eat, not just eat healthier but to eat more in general. But I think for me right now they can be part of a plan to at least get me started on improving my weight and nutrition. I do like food, and despite my love of junk food, I even do like healthy things like vegan dishes...I just have a very hard time actually eating food most of the time because of no appetite. I am rambling here so I will stop.
    Amanda the good thing is when you start eating right and feeling better, you're appetite will increase. I'm sorry about your sores and hope they heal up quick. Kudos for patching up the guys! That's a bonus. Have a nice day. {hugs} Mona

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