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    Biden Faults Palin on Stem Cells

    Biden Faults Palin on Stem Cells
    By ELIZABETH HOLMES
    September 10, 2008; Page A6

    Sen. Joe Biden brought a sensitive social issue to the fore of the presidential campaign on Tuesday, by suggesting that opposition to stem-cell research signals less dedication to people with disabilities.

    The Democratic vice-presidential nominee's comments were apparently aimed at his Republican rival, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, who has an infant son with Down syndrome and opposes embryonic-stem-cell research.


    "I hear all this talk about how the Republicans are going to work in dealing with parents who have both...the joy and the difficulty of raising a child who has a developmental disability, who were born with a birth defect," Sen. Biden said at a rally in Columbia, Mo., on Tuesday. "Well, guess what folks? If you care about it, why don't you support stem-cell research?"

    more...

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1221...ign2008_topbox

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    come on manouli, you leave some pieces out:

    The McCain campaign responded quickly. "Barack Obama's running mate sunk to a new low today, launching an offensive debate over who cares more about special-needs children," said McCain spokesman Ben Porritt. "Playing politics with this issue is disturbing and indicative of a desperate campaign."
    Agreed, but stuff like this is what gets people talking & hopefully... ultimately... more educated on the issue.

    Politics aside, stem-cell research appears to hold little promise of mitigating Down syndrome or helping those with the condition. People with Down syndrome are born with an extra chromosome, and "that is something that does not seem to be easily addressed with stem cells," said Brian Skotko, whose research and medical practice at Children's Hospital in Boston focuses on Down syndrome.
    Fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Pruett
    come on manouli, you leave some pieces out:

    Agreed, but stuff like this is what gets people talking & hopefully... ultimately... more educated on the issue.

    Fact.
    Hi Scott, I can't post the whole article because we will be in trouble.

    Hope politicians don't play with our lives, we go through hell daily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Pruett
    come on manouli, you leave some pieces out:

    Agreed, but stuff like this is what gets people talking & hopefully... ultimately... more educated on the issue.

    Fact.
    Re you're fact, what's the purpose of highlighting that? Are you saying that because those with downs syndrome won't benefit, there's no reason for her to support it?

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    "If my child can't benefit, fick y'all."


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    Quote Originally Posted by manouli
    Biden Faults Palin on Stem Cells
    By ELIZABETH HOLMES
    September 10, 2008; Page A6

    Sen. Joe Biden brought a sensitive social issue to the fore of the presidential campaign on Tuesday, by suggesting that opposition to stem-cell research signals less dedication to people with disabilities.

    The Democratic vice-presidential nominee's comments were apparently aimed at his Republican rival, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, who has an infant son with Down syndrome and opposes embryonic-stem-cell research.


    "I hear all this talk about how the Republicans are going to work in dealing with parents who have both...the joy and the difficulty of raising a child who has a developmental disability, who were born with a birth defect," Sen. Biden said at a rally in Columbia, Mo., on Tuesday. "Well, guess what folks? If you care about it, why don't you support stem-cell research?"

    more...

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1221...ign2008_topbox
    Just because stem cell research most likely will NOT be a viable treatment source for Downs Syndrome doesn't have anything to do with the NO votes on the research. NOT a damn thing.

    The cocktails and drugs used to treat AIDS or not applicable to Downs either..yet does the right support the research and application..hell yes. Radiation for cancer..come on it's all just a ploy to get the religious all against something so they vote in a bunch of thieves and liars like they have the last two elections.
    Life isn't about getting thru the storm but learning to dance in the rain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antiquity
    Re you're fact, what's the purpose of highlighting that? Are you saying that because those with downs syndrome won't benefit, there's no reason for her to support it?
    I was simply highlighting that it was a weak reason for Biden arguing the issue. I didn't say that she has no other reason to support SCR.
    Last edited by -scott-; 09-10-2008 at 12:59 PM.

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    Leave Manouli Alone Or Else......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Pruett
    come on manouli, you leave some pieces out:

    Agreed, but stuff like this is what gets people talking & hopefully... ultimately... more educated on the issue.

    Fact.
    Scott,

    I would not be so quick in dismissing a potential role of stem cell research in Down's syndrome. I am actually beginning to do some of this research recently because we found that lithium seems to induce a gene in stem cells that seems to play a major role in Down's syndrome. While I don't know whether stem cells themselves will be therapeutic for Down's syndrome, it appears that changes in stem cells behavior play a major role in the development of Down's syndrome.

    Stem cell research is not just using stem cells to treat diseases. Stem cells research is about understand how and what stem cell do. This understanding will result in better understanding of so many diseases. This is why the Bush restriction of human embryonic stem cell research was so bad. It has held back our understanding of what how and what embryonic stem cells do.

    I predicted back in 2001 that we would have induced pluripotent stem (IPS) cells. After all, stem cells are only cells that express certain genes. If we express those genes in cells, they will become stem cells. But, having IPS cells does not reduce the need for human embryonic stem cell research. There is more to stem cells that just being able to induce them. We have to find out what they do because what they do is the basis of all development. Down's syndrome is a developmental disorder resulting from trisomy 21 (an extra 21st chromosome).

    Wise.

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    Common sense. If you really want to help people with disabilities, you must support all research that can provide them better quality of life.
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