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Thread: Republican Party Platform Change: They now officially oppose hESC research

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdirt
    radical protest don't bring change.
    Define "radical"? Would, say, boycotting public transportation qualify as such?

    Some form of""universalized" health plan is needed NOW !
    Careful there. Your fellow Republicans may want to stone you for being a socialist.
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    Who among us could purchase an adequate individual health plan for $2,500? A family plan for $5,000? Health care prices will still be determined by the market under the Obama plan. It is just that the uninsured consumers will have more leverage by banding together to be represented by our government in health care negotions. Anyone preferring their current form of health insurance will be able to keep it. We have far too many instances of unregulated markets working to the detriment of the average citizen. Best Value, not lowest cost, is the target to hit. What good is low cost if it doesn't buy what you need?
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    I agree that, regardless of who wins the presidential election, healthcare is a complicated issue that will only be rectified through bipartisan commitment. I’m not making a hard argument for the McCain plan, but I think some additional context (and a clarification) regarding these points is appropriate.

    The McCain plan would give the individual a $2,500 refundable tax credit, and the family a $5,000 refundable tax credit, so they could seek out and acquire the health insurance policy that best suits their needs - Basically, this would shift the tax incentives from the employer to the individual - And, if they had money left over, it could be invested in a health savings account.

    The idea behind deregulation is that it would promote a market driven industry which could actually improve access and lower costs – Rather than facilitate an artificial environment in which “the insurance industry can charge whatever they want.”
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    the last eight years

    banned stem cell research, 9/11, Iraq, Afghanistan, Abu Graihb, Guantanamo, Katrina, Valerie Plame, Sibul Edmonds, Osama Bin Laden, renditions, terrorism, fear alert levels, scripted 'terrorist threats', Abrahomov scandal, Scooter Libby, Enron, recession, job loses, housing market collapse, $4 a gallon gasoline, carte blanche for corporate pollution, global warming doesn't exist, a woman does not have the right to choose her bodies destiny, adam and eve rode dinosaurs, why wasn't T Rex on the Arc, i could go on but please people, if the last eight years haven't taught you anything....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdirt
    There's a very good chance Mcain/Palin will win in Nov.What will you do then?Hole up on this site and bitch to each other ? Yes ,I support the majority of the rep.beliefs over that of the democrats.That doesn't Define my existence ,I do not support all policies of the party ,unlike,imo most demos.Slamming,name calling,radical protest don't bring change.Honest ,intelligent campaigning,letter writing,education are more effective.......so if Mcain does become president does that mean that you'll just stop everything?give up ?fester for 4 more years and wait to try again ? NO !use all this anger,transfer it to a bi-partisan campaign to negotiate change !!!!
    hi tdirt, not sure where 2 start, first my guess is your a para

    agree with TR, Originally Posted by tdirt
    radical protest don't bring change.

    If it was not for ADABT we'd all still be in nursing homes, well not paras

    but even paras would be stranded.

    many people work like hell and then come here to vent frustrations

    if i thought mccain administration could be a friend to science i might vote for him, but now he can't

    normally i'm not a 1 issue person but a canadate who will not commit to science big time with all the probabilities is a joke

    bi-partisanship........in our dreams

    Coburn and friends had a chance to reach across the isle and blew it.
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    Leo.you just wasted a post generaizing and not one positive sugestion our any helpul dialouge.By the way I am a c-5/6with basic use of my fingers although a brachial plexus injury disabled most of my left arm.For almost 18 years I have lived on my own,worked.and paid for what help I needed and got my insurance trough work.At the present I have been down and had to go on my disability.Now community choice may be my only optionto independance...sickness and the economy have cost me my buisness and saving,but I have been researching Mcains plan and feel it may work ! Spend more time learning and less asuming !

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    Confronting the Long-Term Challenge

    John McCain Will Develop A Strategy For Meeting The Challenge Of A Population Needing Greater Long-Term Care. There have been a variety of state-based experiments such as Cash and Counseling or The Program of All-Inclusive Care for the Elderly (PACE) that are pioneering approaches for delivering care to people in a home setting. Seniors are given a monthly stipend which they can use to hire workers and purchase care-related services and goods. They can get help managing their care by designating representatives, such as relatives or friends, to help make decisions. It also offers counseling and bookkeeping services to assist consumers in handling their programmatic responsibilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdirt
    Confronting the Long-Term Challenge

    John McCain Will Develop A Strategy For Meeting The Challenge Of A Population Needing Greater Long-Term Care. There have been a variety of state-based experiments such as Cash and Counseling or The Program of All-Inclusive Care for the Elderly (PACE) that are pioneering approaches for delivering care to people in a home setting. Seniors are given a monthly stipend which they can use to hire workers and purchase care-related services and goods. They can get help managing their care by designating representatives, such as relatives or friends, to help make decisions. It also offers counseling and bookkeeping services to assist consumers in handling their programmatic responsibilities.
    this continues to spend money on a problem

    science spends money to eliminate a problem
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