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    Sorry, it was a typo I meant proved.

    Sorry, it was a typo I meant proved.
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    I'd suggest you are complaining about the wrong...

    I'd suggest you are complaining about the wrong thing. The fact that this has only been approved on acute models, and never on chronic (someone please tell me I'm wrong), is the problem. We read the...
  3. Thread: RENETX Update

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    It's a nice idea, maybe they collaborate in the...

    It's a nice idea, maybe they collaborate in the labs, or maybe they just have a drink together when they go to all of these conferences they like to do, so they can pat each other on the back....
  4. There is a good paper on this by Wise here...

    There is a good paper on this by Wise here https://www.travisroyfoundation.org/sci/resources/spinal-cord-injury-levels-classification/
  5. This isn't a cure and they aren't talking about...

    This isn't a cure and they aren't talking about it as such. The mainstream press like to overstate stuff like this, but thats not the fault of the medical community.

    Who knows why they have chosen...
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    Its no closer to a cure, but very positive for...

    Its no closer to a cure, but very positive for those without hand function.
  7. Thread: RENETX Update

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    It's a phase 1 trial so safety is the main aim....

    It's a phase 1 trial so safety is the main aim. Don't know if rehab is going to part of the next phases though.


    The reasoning I was given was:

    I was told Phase 4 for Thoracic injuries - but...
  8. This trial seems to match the description in the...

    This trial seems to match the description in the article:

    https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT02978638

    No results, but it does indicate they are using the Vocare in a different way.
  9. Is it not this device:...

    Is it not this device:
    https://finetech-medical.co.uk/products/finetech-brindley-bladder-control-system/

    Have a search on the whole of care cure for Vocare and you'll find more info.

    It would...
  10. It's not your imagination, but based on past...

    It's not your imagination, but based on past performance it's a dream that he will bring a new device to market.
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    The trial is now recruiting: ...

    The trial is now recruiting:

    https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT03989440
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    Sticky: Do you mean not posted yet, or not recruiting...

    Do you mean not posted yet, or not recruiting yet?

    If not posted yet, what's this trial?
    https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT03979742
  13. The way the spinal cord works is dynamic, so new...

    The way the spinal cord works is dynamic, so new connections can be made. It's more like digging tunnels and building bridges to get around a car crash blocking the road, rather than removing the...
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    Sticky: Is this the trial posting -...

    Is this the trial posting - https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT03979742
  15. Good point, but there are additional reasons for...

    Good point, but there are additional reasons for the use of these cells, such as the patents have expired. Could be a double edged sword - if its successful anyone can use them, but on the other side...
  16. So would you say the take away from all of this...

    So would you say the take away from all of this is that this is a much better way of doing scaffolding?

    They may or may not be using the best stem cells, and could enhance whatever they use with...
  17. I'm not so sure that this is all about the stem...

    I'm not so sure that this is all about the stem cells or growth factors, its might be about the way that they are put into the cord so that axons align properly (or at least go in the right...
  18. It sounds like a great idea, and makes loads of...

    It sounds like a great idea, and makes loads of sense.

    Unfortunately they seem to be going the same path to a long long process.



    If they think it works, why not go to human trials with what...
  19. Trials are being done in a number of locations...

    Trials are being done in a number of locations around the world, however I don't think there are enough units to do more at the moment. Hopefully later this year they will build the next generation...
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    Details of NASCIC's session are in the link...

    Details of NASCIC's session are in the link below:

    https://nasciconsortium.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Final-report-SCI-2020-panel-and-survey-results-NASCIC.pdf
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    Thanks Grammy, I'll keenly read if you get around...

    Thanks Grammy, I'll keenly read if you get around to it.
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    All fair comments. To be honest I'd love to call...

    All fair comments.
    To be honest I'd love to call some of these people out - but apart from me venting I know it would cause more damage than good.

    Judging by your counters to every point, either...
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    Come on, I don't think you need to take the straw...

    Come on, I don't think you need to take the straw man argument with me. We are talking about disruption, disruption is not doing the same thing over and over.
    There is the odd scientist who are...
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    Thanks Sparky, such a shame.

    Thanks Sparky, such a shame.
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    What you say is true and I don't disagree, but...

    What you say is true and I don't disagree, but there is another side that I was thinking about.
    If the disruption isn't going to happen from the top, then why do the scientists not disrupt...
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