Lcd Tvs

[MADPRODUCER]

I went to BEST BUY saw a real nice Sony 46in LCD. Do you think anything is wrong buying online from bwayphoto? They have 5 stars and over 5000 positive reviews..
Or online itself?

[PN]

I just did a Google search (http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&q=bwayphoto&btnG=Google+Search) for Bwayphoto and I think you should buy elsewhere. Sony makes a very good LCD and I would make sure (because of the size) you get 1080p. Sharp is another company that rates very high and they both have good processors for upscaling Standard Def.

[Patonb]

have 2 sharp aquous.. a 05 26" and a 07 37"....... Yha im a tv whore. My mother bought a 26" sony, 05, an likes my sharp better.

But as PN said, at 46" get 1080p as it's got better resolution.

[lynnifer]

I just got 1080i because I was told they're not broadcasting in 'p' yet ...

I have both an Aquos and a Sony Bravia .. prefer the Sony by miles.

[Patonb]

I just got 1080i because I was told they're not broadcasting in 'p' yet ...

I have both an Aquos and a Sony Bravia .. prefer the Sony by miles.

Funny, your opposite of my mom......... I've never seen hers so....

Even though the 1080p isn't put yet, and the others are cheaper... I went with th 1080p because of resolution...

Did you know too, that on rogers you can piggy back on other folks on-demand signals?

[Rrrrronnn]

I have a Samsung 46" 4671. It rox. The 1080 is great on channels that broadcast in that res.

[ala]

1080i is basically the same as 720p. 1080p is the true HD format. If you have watched a BluRay movie on a 1080p TV you know what I mean. Sharper and clearer than the movie theater.

It's true that 720p is good for most broadcast and certainly for std DVD's, but I like having a 1080p set. I do understand buying 720p to save money, but I want 1080 so I can enjoy the full effect in the near future.

[WADDiE]

Samsung LCD's FTW. i have 2 22in and a 40in lcd 1080p hooked up to my computer. quality tv's. make sure you get 1080p cuz you'll be sorry down the road.

[2jazzyjeff]

I would never buy a big ticket item off the internet. I prefer a physical store to view it and in case there's a problem and I know they'll have a good return policy. Also, with a nice 1080p tv, LCD, plasma or DLP, you'll want to get the extended in-home warranty.. I can't imagine the mess I'd go thru if I had a problem with one of these online shops. Buyer beware.. buy from a reputable store.

[Bondo]

I have a sharp, they are beautiful.
My Brother has a Sony, it is also beautiful.

My sharp will do 1080p over VGA, his Sony will only do it over HDMI because of DRM restrictions.

I personally view Sony as constantly picking their corporate motives over their customers. Every decision they make focuses on restricting their products instead of making them better.

/soapbox

[MADPRODUCER]

PN Good looking out. Exactly, thats why I choose over a 40'' because of 1080p.. I didnt want 720p.. I read somewhere its a few lines in difference. I know sams club have the one I want. I'll just get it price match at bestbuy...
Walmart may have it they take anything back.. Open pack of tampax!

Also that samsung had a better picture then all of them.. Im a sucker for sony... May go samsung..

[Art454]

Samsung with high contrast ratio is the best picture out there...actually sony and samsung are together on LCD as I was told...Forget Plasma and DLP as there dying out.

[EAK]

I got two Samsung TV's, a 32" 1080i last year and a 46" 1080p this year. I love them both. Samsung does get it's LCD's from Sony, although recently I read that they are gonna start making their own soon. So if you really like Sony, think of it this way you are getting a Sony TV for much cheaper price, cause you're not paying for the name. And I would definately recomend buying a TV from the local store. Learned it the hard way about 5 years ago when I ordered one online and it came broke and it took forever to get it replaced. Too much headache.

[MADPRODUCER]

Samsung are higher than sony in price for a 46''..

[Scott Pruett]

Samsung with high contrast ratio is the best picture out there...actually sony and samsung are together on LCD as I was told...Forget Plasma and DLP as there dying out.
:bs:

Plasmas: Pioneer Kuros will change your mind.

Rear projection: Samsung LED DLPs will change your mind.

:D

[Andy]

As a sidebar...how much of a PITA is it to sell your TV so you have space for a new one? Is the typical used TV buyer like a used car shopper or ??? Experiences? I need to get rid of my 55", would love to upgrade, but not looking forward to getting rid of the current one.

[Scott Pruett]

andy - you're in a big city.

put it on craigslist; it may be easy to unload.

[2jazzyjeff]

Forget Plasma and DLP as there dying out.Nah... the only affordable LCD's are 40'' and smaller. Granted, they have excellent pics, but try pricing a 61'' or 71'' in LCD.. :zombie: :zombie: You can buy a nice SUV instead. Plasmas have come waay down, DLP is holding strong for the consumer wanting a bigscreen w/o the big pricetag. They're not going anywhere anytime soon.

Andy, stick that 55'er in another room. I still have an older 60'' CRT Mitsu. in my workout/spare bedroom.

[mike]

Don't really see the need for an LCD as the DLP's have great color, resolution and picture quality for less money. I would never purchase a large ticket TV set on line as I would be concerned about the return issues if a problem should arise. Some online retailers contract with local service centers to handle repairs which might work out.

As far a price is concerned, I would spend my time looking into the reviews of which sets are the best and then wait for the Sunday newspaper supplements to come out and see if the TV set I sellected is on sale. Many times you can get better prices at manufacturer's subsidized retail sales then online pricing.

[EAK]

Samsung are higher than sony in price for a 46''..

I don't know where you are looking at for your prices, but at Circuit City 46" Samsung is cheaper than a 46" Sony LCD.
Check it out...
http://www.circuitcity.com/rpsm/catOid/-12869/N/20012866+20012867+20012869+4590+965/link/ref/Ns/net_price|1/rpem/ccd/categorylist.do (http://www.circuitcity.com/rpsm/catOid/-12869/N/20012866+20012867+20012869+4590+965/link/ref/Ns/net_price%7C1/rpem/ccd/categorylist.do)

[dan_nc]

I got my dad a 46" samsung for christmas. Pretty happy with the dynamic contrast ratio and the trueness of the blacks. Although my folks only have basic cable and therefore, only had a couple free-to-air hd channels, the ones that did come in at 1080i looked amazingly sharp. Can hardly wait for some 1080p programming. I'd have really preferred to get something from the Pioneer Elite line, but they were quite a bit more than I wanted to spend on a tv for my dad.

[Lazlo]

Sorry to ask a question slightly off topic, but why aren't folks discussing projectors as an option here? You can get a 1080p 3-LCD projector and project an image as big or small as you like. I only ask because I'm currently designing a home theater and I'm leaning toward a projector myself.

[ala]

Sorry to ask a question slightly off topic, but why aren't folks discussing projectors as an option here? You can get a 1080p 3-LCD projector and project an image as big or small as you like. I only ask because I'm currently designing a home theater and I'm leaning toward a projector myself.
IMO and from my perspective, I don’t like any television image that is projected or reflected (DLP) because I see a loss of picture definition and luminance that I consider unacceptable. Plus, we have a house with a lot of natural light, so we need the brightness.

[Lazlo]

IMO and from my perspective, I don’t like any television image that is projected or reflected (DLP) because I see a loss of picture definition and luminance that I consider unacceptable. Plus, we have a house with a lot of natural light, so we need the brightness.

Picture definition and luminance can be related to the quality of the projector and screen, just as with LCD displays. Certainly if you have light streaming through windows against the screen it would be a problem, but aside from that, do projectors have other issues I should be aware of?

[ala]

Picture definition and luminance can be related to the quality of the projector and screen, just as with LCD displays. Certainly if you have light streaming through windows against the screen it would be a problem, but aside from that, do projectors have other issues I should be aware of?
I don't know, except for the setup--positioning, mounting. This setup is designed more for a dedicated theater room. I remember Roger Ebert had one.

[JAYCUE]

If you're going to look at tv's in the store, see if you can play with the remote. A lot of tv's in the store have their displays jacked up to look really good in the store. Some of the factory settings are made just for this. If you keep all the settings cranked up, the life expectancy of the tv drops.

[2jazzyjeff]

I have never seen a projector worth buying for the home. They all look washed out and colorless. The only advantage, not really, is having a possible 102'' screen. Save your $$$ and buy a larger DLP like my Samsung 71'' in my living room. In HD the image is great, esp. on sports.

[Herco16]

I have never seen a projector worth buying for the home. They all look washed out and colorless. The only advantage, not really, is having a possible 102'' screen. Save your $$$ and buy a larger DLP like my Samsung 71'' in my living room. In HD the image is great, esp. on sports.

You know I luv ya Jeff, but................BITE ME!!!! Now that I know size does matter, I feel really inadequate!

That looks great. I'll bet everything looks good on it.

Dave

[dan_nc]

2jj, I'm definitely jealous. I think that TV is bigger than my entire house.

[smokey]

A couple years ago we got a Sony KDFE42A10 42" LCD Rear Projection Television and it's great. It's only 17" deep and we put it in a corner anyway. Very happy with it. Everyone that comes by to watch a game in HD always remarks on the great colors, clarity and detail of the image. This particular model isn't readily available anymore but I wouldn't shy away from another rear projection tv in the future.
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-KDFE42A10-Rear-Projection-Television/dp/B000A2K3XW

[MADPRODUCER]

Im looking here http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8179455&type=product&id=1172881381461

see price in cart. Im looking but sony is cheaper.. Show me one cheaper. I don't know where you are looking at for your prices, but at Circuit City 46" Samsung is cheaper than a 46" Sony LCD.
Check it out...
http://www.circuitcity.com/rpsm/catOid/-12869/N/20012866+20012867+20012869+4590+965/link/ref/Ns/net_price|1/rpem/ccd/categorylist.do (http://www.circuitcity.com/rpsm/catOid/-12869/N/20012866+20012867+20012869+4590+965/link/ref/Ns/net_price%7C1/rpem/ccd/categorylist.do)

[PN]

Mad:

If the Sony is 120 Hz (http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/home-entertainment/jvc-rolls-out-more-120hz-lcd-hdtvs-232181.php) you should be golden!

[Lazlo]

I have never seen a projector worth buying for the home. They all look washed out and colorless. The only advantage, not really, is having a possible 102'' screen. Save your $$$ and buy a larger DLP like my Samsung 71'' in my living room. In HD the image is great, esp. on sports.

Why would a DLP rear-projection TV have better color than a DLP projector? It's the same technology. It must be the ambient light that makes the projector look washed out. It's hard to get an apples-to-apples comparason of the two, but I agree, if there is a lot of ambient light then a projector would not be a good choice.

[MADPRODUCER]

Mad:

If the Sony is 120 Hz (http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/home-entertainment/jvc-rolls-out-more-120hz-lcd-hdtvs-232181.php) you should be golden!

I look everywhere it dont say. I look here http://www.sonystyle.com/wcsstore/SonyStyleStorefrontAssetStore/pdf/KDL46V2500.pdf

I didn't notice that in the store...

[2jazzyjeff]

Why would a DLP rear-projection TV have better color than a DLP projector? It's the same technology. It must be the ambient light that makes the projector look washed out. It's hard to get an apples-to-apples comparason of the two, but I agree, if there is a lot of ambient light then a projector would not be a good choice.

Thanks Dave and Dan... remember, party at my place. :D

Zero, go to any store and watch a projector. Almost all of them are only projecting like < 10'. Most setups, even home, usually project further. DLP tv's are projecting to a screen only inches away whereas projectors are projecting several feet. It's only natural for the image to lose color and clarity.

[EAK]

Yup that one is cheaper. By only $100. I still think the Samsung is a better deal cause you get better contrast ratio for deaper black levels. And much more TV. So I think this one is a better buy.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8251447&type=product&id=1169512521541

[PN]

Mad:

It could be 60 Hz but I don't know if that should be a Showstopper! I will look into it tomorrow when I have more time. In the mean time, Google is your friend along with the members of CareCure!

[dan_nc]

Yup that one is cheaper. By only $100. I still think the Samsung is a better deal cause you get better contrast ratio for deaper black levels. And much more TV. So I think this one is a better buy.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8251447&type=product&id=1169512521541

If you're getting a Samsung, should probably opt for the LN-T4669 instead of the 4661; the 4669 is 120Hz, has better contrast and the auto motion plus feature.

[PN]

I look everywhere it dont say.
I didn't notice that in the store...
No it does not say and therefore I think this TV is 60 Hz. The Amazon customer reviews (http://www.amazon.com/Sony-KDL-46V2500-Bravia-1080p-HDTV/dp/B000HGSL4E) are quite good for this Sony 46 inch LCD TV. If you prefer a Sony 46-inch LCD TV that is 120 Hz, then I suggest you keep shopping. Start off by doing a Google Product Search (http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&rlz=&q=Sony+-+46%22+1080p+Flat-Panel+LCD+HDTV+120+Hz&um=1&ie=UTF-8) to get an idea of the varying prices.

[tvot]

i got a 50 inch toshiba dlp last year for 850. the hd picture is excellent via dishnetwork. digital cable was very poor. a plus is the toshiba lamp is replacable by the owner. this set blows away my other toshiba 55 inch rptv that is 4 years old. so i say check out some of the dlp's if you want a great picture on a 40 inch or larger tv.

here a good article about 720 vs. 1080
http://www.satelliteguys.us/old-voom-chit-chat-archives/20592-interesting-discussion-1080i-vs-720p-battle.html

[Lazlo]

Zero, go to any store and watch a projector. Almost all of them are only projecting like < 10'. Most setups, even home, usually project further. DLP tv's are projecting to a screen only inches away whereas projectors are projecting several feet. It's only natural for the image to lose color and clarity.

I'm sorry but that doesn't make any sense. Light doesn't lose color or clarity just because it passes through more air, unless the air is smoky or something. Look at the quality of the new digital movie theaters (yes I know those projectors cost an order of magnitude more, but light is light).

I did think of one big downside for the projector: Guitar Hero! Not for me so much of course, but the kids can't stand in front of the screen and thrash without blocking the image! That alone might clinch it.

[2jazzyjeff]

I'm sorry but that doesn't make any sense. Light doesn't lose color or clarity just because it passes through more air, Sure it does. It's more of losing it's intensity and dispersement, IMO. Quick test. Hold a flashlight 4'' from a wall. Roll back 5', 10'. See a difference? Now I'm no expert on any of this, but seeing many projectors in bars and homes + common sense = my logic. :mega: Why not call a projector manufacturer and see why a projected DLP pic falls way short of a DLP tv?

[Scott Pruett]

that's the inverse square law of light.

projectors, when set up correctly, can compete quite well.

projectors in bars will likely never be high-end home theater quality, nor will those that you typically see in Best Buy, etc.

do you get pissed at movie theaters for having substandard systems?

you probably just haven't seen the upper-end ht stuff. :D

[2jazzyjeff]

do you get pissed at movie theaters for having substandard systems?Me? Why would you ask this?

you probably just haven't seen the upper-end ht stuff. :DThat's more the case.. I can't see paying that kind of coin for a projector, bc they are no doubt expensive.

[Scott Pruett]

Me? Why would you ask this? um... b/c they use projectors? :D

That's more the case.. I can't see paying that kind of coin for a projector, bc they are no doubt expensive. yeah, they're expensive. the Sony SXRDs (http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&categoryId=8198552921644515290), for example.

[2jazzyjeff]

um... b/c they use projectors? :DI'm not complaining about projectors. Hardly as I've never liked them bc as you've stated, you'd have to spend way too much. Not your average idiot would have one in the home. I'm sure they sell, but not in high demand.

[Scott Pruett]

ha. well, I have an everyday InFocus projector hooked up to a non-HD TV. I paid < $1k for it. Sure, the quality could be better, but it's certainly not awful. Besides, the experience is more fun watching movies & football when the image is 6-7' tall (and I don't even use a fancy screen).

The high-end ones sell though. A guy in my neighborhood runs a place in town that specializes in home theaters. I have a friend w/ a rather pricey setup & know of more. Those average idiots can afford a 5-figure ht though. More power to 'em. :)

[MADPRODUCER]

Mad:

It could be 60 Hz but I don't know if that should be a Showstopper! I will look into it tomorrow when I have more time. In the mean time, Google is your friend along with the members of CareCure!
sony 46w3000 is $2199 its 120 hz-may get it... .. I didnt want to spend over 2k for a t.v.

Just buying it for the wii i found at walmart on christmas eve.. they had only 4 in the buggie.

[MADPRODUCER]

If you're getting a Samsung, should probably opt for the LN-T4669 instead of the 4661; the 4669 is 120Hz, has better contrast and the auto motion plus feature.
Checking it out.. I gotta break the piggy bank for that one.

[rollin64]

I would never buy a big ticket item off the internet. I prefer a physical store to view it and in case there's a problem and I know they'll have a good return policy. Also, with a nice 1080p tv, LCD, plasma or DLP, you'll want to get the extended in-home warranty.. I can't imagine the mess I'd go thru if I had a problem with one of these online shops. Buyer beware.. buy from a reputable store.

same thinking here.

oh yea, we're both georgians, that explains it. :p

[ROXnROLZ]

Who needs a projector TV with screens now this big?
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LAS VEGAS (Reuters) - Japanese electronics maker Sharp Corp will begin selling a 108-inch LCD television later this year, executives told the Consumer Electronics Show on Sunday.
Showing off the world's largest flat panel TV at CES has become something of an arms race. Last year at CES, Sharp introduced at 108-inch LCD TV.
As expected, Panasonic blew everyone out of the water this morning with the introduction of a 150-inch plasma TV it is calling the "Life Screen."
The huge TV was displaying a giant image of an elephant when it was wheeled out during a keynote address by Panasonic AVC Networks Co. President Toshihiro Sakamoto.
"This stunning display allows you to see the elephant in the room in all its glory," Sakamoto said.
It's 11 feet wide and it has four times the resolution of current full HD plasma displays. They also showed some sumo wrestlers on the screen, which looked amazingly life-like.
"We believe Life Screen gives new meaning to the words 'reality TV,'" Sakamoto said."Can you imagine sitting at home and watching the Olympics on this baby?
Can you imagine trying to get that through your front door? Or convincing your wife to let you have it?
Panasonic didn't say when or if the massive TV will be available but Sakamoto said that Panasonic has sold more 3,000 units of a 103-inch plasma it introduced two years ago.
All of this begs the question: how big is too big?
Here's a photo of the 150-incher!

[2jazzyjeff]

Who needs a projector TV with screens now this big?


People who have more money than sense..

Tried to find some prices for those mentioned, but came across these that'll give an idea..

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,242431,00.html

A 103-inch plasma TV by Panasonic retails for $70,000. This was 1 year ago so I'm sure the larger 108 LCD is pushing 100K, IMO. :zombie:

Scott, now the high end projectors are looking sweeet!! :D

[JAYCUE]

My uncle has a samsung similar to jazzyjeffs. He had an enclosure built that holds the set and all the components so everything's hidden. It looks real nice. I think some people just buy the flat screens to be trendy. Sometimes it looks weird when you have the screen on the wall and then you have a table underneath it holding all the components. I hate wires! They're taking care of that now though (wireless hd).

I was watching a show the other day on led tv's. I like where that's heading. They built a big one on the show.

This reporter runs the length of the screen in 12 seconds.
The TV is a measly 11m by 66m large and could easily fit three (yes 3) tennis courts.
Manufactured by the talented (and somewhat mad) folks at Toshiba, Japan

[dan_nc]

The next tv, I'd really like putting the TV on a wall with an access closet behind it and some kind of IR-RF remote extender to keep all the components out of sight.

[ROXnROLZ]

I have a Sony 27" Trinitron analog CRT TV and I called for my $40 "DTV Converter" coupons so I can purchase a box to convert the digital signal to analog for my old Trinitron.

I'm waiting until:
1. the whole Plasma, LCD or DLP technology thing works itself out (like Betamax and VHS).
2. Price comes down on the technology that emerges as the "standard" or preferred TV type to buy.

A couple family members both bought the same 42" Panasonic Plasma HDTV on sale from Sears. They like them very much. For my living situation and room space and all, a 42" TV would probably the max size that I would ever need. I keep seeing and reading about improvements in LCD HDTVs and prices coming down, so I'm not sure which will my choice in about a year or two as all of the HDTV technologies improve.

The other necessary technology to compliment the HDTV would be the sound system...
Has anyone experienced that Bose TV system is supposed to give superior surround sound with only two small satellite speakers and one subwoofer? I have 5 speakers now, but need an upgrade to my receiver and subwoofer... But, if the Bose system eliminates the need for all that, it would be a great alternative.

[2jazzyjeff]

I was watching a show the other day on led tv's. I like where that's heading. They built a big one on the show.

Forgot about Turner Field's HDTV in the outfield. It was the title holder for a bit at 50'. The co. that built it built the one that Jacyue is talking about. I found the article here (http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/25/newest-worlds-largest-hdtv-at-tokyo-racetrack/).

[PN]

[FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]The other necessary technology to compliment the HDTV would be the sound system...
Has anyone experienced that Bose TV system is supposed to give superior surround sound with only two small satellite speakers and one subwoofer? I have 5 speakers now, but need an upgrade to my receiver and subwoofer... But, if the Bose system eliminates the need for all that, it would be a great alternative.
The speakers simulate the sound of a 5.1 system by bouncing the audio around and off the walls in your living room or bedroom. Some people think the video and the audio budget should be 50-50. This is a lot more expensive than people plan or want to spend for a sound system. The problem with the one speakers solution and may be the Bose system is that you don't get the immersive experience that the 5.1 offers. However, some people’s floor plan doesn't allow for rear speakers and in this case the Bose system (http://www.bose.com/controller?event=view_product_page_event&product=321gs_dvd_index) or the Polk Sound Bar (http://www.polkaudio.com/homeaudio/products/flatscreens/surroundbar/) (which does not depend on sidewall reflection) work surprisingly well.

[Chess]

I just got the samsung lnt4671 46'' HD LCD 1080p 25k/1 resolution and a 7.1 Klipsch surround sound from amazon. It's not as big as Jeff's, but it's freaking awesome playing games on the ps3, watching blu ray movies or football on ESPN-HD. Its sooo clear and feeling the bass hit from a tackle or bullets wissing by my head RULES!!! I also saved $2k from buying amazon and still have warranties.

[611]

I have never seen a projector worth buying for the home. They all look washed out and colorless. The only advantage, not really, is having a possible 102'' screen. Save your $$$ and buy a larger DLP like my Samsung 71'' in my living room. In HD the image is great, esp. on sports.
I went to check out Sony Bravia 46" but saw the Mitsubishi 57" and 65" DLP and as soon as I clean clutter out of entertainment center,I plan to buy the biggest one that will fit. Great picture and I've never met anyone who wishes they had purchased smaller screen after using the tv.
After sitting up 13 or 14 hrs each day I enjoy lying in my bed watching sports.Andy,and Friday Nite Lights. I'm with Jeff,bigger is better!

[MADPRODUCER]

Stuck between the 3..

Philips 42" Full HD 1080P LCD, 42PFL3603D/27 - Energy Star Compliant
Samsung 46" Series 5 LCD HDTV (LN46A530)
Sony 46" S Series LCD HDTV (KDL-46S4100)

They all look the same. Phillips is toe to toe w/ the Samsung. Hmm..

[2jazzyjeff]

Price should sway you to the one to get then.. :)

[PN]

I can see that you are probably going to get a good price/deal on the Philips, but I would go with a Vizio (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=8477431), because it will probably do a better job upscaling standard definition. Some of Samsung's LCDs are using LED-backlit displays. The LED’s power on faster and can be sectioned on in certain parts of the screen, which means it will only brighten where it's necessary. The Sony Bravia looks good. I think the Sony and the Samsung are both 120 Hz.

[MADPRODUCER]

2Jaz- Money aint a thang.. If not m sure i could get a small loan from you..

PN- Hmm, Lets see..