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Wise Young
06-12-2007, 03:52 AM
On most tasks 2-3x faster than Internet explorer (IE7) Typically twice as fast than firefox. The fastest browser on Windows.

http://www.apple.com/safari/

There have been half a billion downloads of iTunes by Windows users. Public beta of safari that runs on both Tiger and Windows available now. Full safari engine is on iPhone.

Wise.

Juke_spin
06-12-2007, 01:03 PM
Wise, speedy browser but I've yet to find/install any bells or whistles like tabs, etc.. Probably there; I'll check out the Safari homepage.

Davey
06-12-2007, 02:53 PM
Tabs are included as a default feature in Safari.

Juke_spin
06-16-2007, 08:54 PM
Safari proves unworkable for my divX video viewer. Using the link provided by Mike Honcho in the "Watch TV on your pc" thread, http://www.tv-links.co.uk/, I cannot go into fullscreen mode and get back out short of using the on/off swithch to turn off the computer. It's kind of turned me off to using the browser even though the fonts make reading text a pleasure.:(

PN
06-16-2007, 09:16 PM
Steve, understand that this is a beta version of Safari (I don't know how secure it is?) and for the time being I am holding off.

Juke_spin
06-16-2007, 09:34 PM
Steve, understand that this is a beta version of Safari (I don't know how secure it is?) and for the time being I am holding off.

Thanks. I'll uninstall it pronto.

Wise Young
06-16-2007, 09:43 PM
http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2192142/apple-plugs-safari-security

Apple plugs three Windows Safari holes

Firm scrambles to fix flaws in newly launched Windows browser
Tom Sanders in California, vnunet.com 15 Jun 2007
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Apple has released an update to the beta of its Safari 3 browser for Windows that repairs three vulnerabilities.

Two of the repaired flaws could allow an attacker to take control of a system. A third exposes the user to a cross-site scripting vulnerability that could lead to disclosure of confidential information.

Security researchers took just hours to find the first security holes after Apple released a beta of the browser on Monday. Researchers have reported a total of seven security vulnerabilities.

One of the repaired vulnerabilities was discovered by Thor Larholm, although Apple did not credit the researcher.

"Given that Apple has a lousy track record with security on OS X, and a hostile attitude towards security researchers, a lot of people are expecting to see quite a number of vulnerabilities targeted at this new Windows browser," he wrote when he disclosed his vulnerability in a blog posting on Tuesday.

In another posting on Thursday, Larholm claimed that the update is still ignoring several weak spots in the browser that allow him to crack the security again with a few tweaks to his original exploit.

Safari 3 is currently in beta making it unlikely that people are using the software as their primary browser. This will limit the risk that attackers will target the vulnerabilities.

Thanks, Paul. Larholm has been critical of Apple's security before.
http://news.com.com/2100-7355_3-5098688.html

Wise.

Patonb
06-16-2007, 10:36 PM
http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2192142/apple-plugs-safari-security



Thanks, Paul. Larholm has been critical of Apple's security before.
http://news.com.com/2100-7355_3-5098688.html

Wise.

I think alot are, due to the "Holier than thou" attitude of apple folks when it comes to security.

rollin64
06-16-2007, 11:14 PM
seems slower than firefox to me. :thinking:

cvelusc
06-17-2007, 10:33 AM
I'd like to give Safari a good shot, but as I am using a fair amount of Firefox extensions I cannot make the switch right now. I wish Safari and the program's developers the very best as any solution to IE is welcomed.

Patonb
06-17-2007, 11:18 AM
seems slower than firefox to me. :thinking:

Uh nah..... probably just you;)


Man, Why does everyone hate on IE? Never once had a problem, ever. It's a tool to browse the web with.. It's like saying 1 hammers better than another.

90+% of issues are due to user screwup.. Not software or product issues.

Juke_spin
06-17-2007, 06:28 PM
Uh nah..... probably just you;)


Man, Why does everyone hate on IE? Never once had a problem, ever. It's a tool to browse the web with.. It's like saying 1 hammers better than another.

90+% of issues are due to user screwup.. Not software or product issues.

And the reason(s) not to switch to FireFox is?

Patonb
06-17-2007, 07:19 PM
And the reason(s) not to switch to FireFox is?

My hammer is still hammering just fine. I have nothing with any 1 software over another.. the chev vs ford debate.. but i do have issues with people sayin X sucks Y's better... and no explination.

That's all.

PN
06-17-2007, 09:54 PM
Internet Explorer virtually works with all websites, but this power also makes it more vulnerable to exploits. Microsoft (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/154036) now seems to understand to that Active X or Active Scripting are a security risk. They have made changes starting with SP-2 to make OS along with Internet Explorer a safer browser. Microsoft now recommends that its users switch to Internet Explorer 7, because it is more secure than IE 6.


Mac or PC (http://macorpc.org/)

Mike Honcho
06-17-2007, 10:10 PM
Actually, some very popular Websites (cnn.com and si.com, even though they're related) won't display without errors in IE7. I'm glad the W3C is creating newer XHTML and CSS standards so pages will be rendered the similarly in all browsers and/or devices.

Zeus
06-18-2007, 09:50 AM
For those wanting to try the Safari beta, it's worth noting the Mac beta is much more mature than the Windows beta (which is hardly surprising, I guess). I've been using the Mac beta for a week and really like it. A few problem pages I visit now render correctly, which is always nice.

Chris.

Lizbv
06-18-2007, 01:24 PM
I have trouble with Media files on Safari beta for XP and not everything shows up on the page that does in IE6. I downloaded it prior to June 15. I wont use IE7, hate the look. I use 6.

cvelusc
06-18-2007, 03:18 PM
Man, Why does everyone hate on IE? I do not judge software (or any other good) favorably from companies that exhibit monopolistic control (either during the past or present), Re:
United States v. Microsoft 87 F. Supp. 2d 30 (D.D.C. 2000) was a court case filed against Microsoft Corporation on May 18, 1998 by the United States Department of Justice (DOJ) and twenty U.S. states. Joel I. Klein was the lead prosecutor. The plaintiffs alleged that Microsoft abused monopoly power in its handling of operating system sales and web browser sales. The issue central to the case was whether Microsoft was allowed to bundle its flagship Internet Explorer (IE) web browser software with its Microsoft Windows operating system. Bundling them together is alleged to have been responsible for Microsoft's victory in the browser wars as every Windows user had a copy of Internet Explorer. It was further alleged that this unfairly restricted the market for competing web browsers (such as Netscape Navigator or Opera) that were slow to download over a modem or had to be purchased at a store. Underlying these disputes were questions over whether Microsoft altered or manipulated its application programming interfaces (APIs) to favor Internet Explorer over third party web browsers, Microsoft's conduct in forming restrictive licensing agreements with OEM computer manufacturers, and Microsoft's intent in its course of conduct. Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft

Patonb
06-18-2007, 04:40 PM
That's good and dandy, but no longer applies. Plus if you're to lazy to do the d/l...... your fault.

You could also blame the OEM manufactuers, as they could have put other browsers on the machine. They choose not to.

So do you use a Mac? Mac is almost as bad as M$ with it's hardware. Apple dug it's own grave in the 80's, and lets not even talk about ipods...

We live in a consumer market.. There is and will always be a company that clearly dominates the market..

However, this doesn't have anything to do with the software.. which are what people bitch about.