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Wise Young
04-14-2007, 01:15 AM
http://www.goldmark.org/netrants/no-word/attach.html

This is an interesting internet article that makes some very cogent arguments for why one should *not* send word documents. Let me summarize the reasons why I do not send word documents unless I am collaborating with somebody who is working on the same document, i.e. writing a paper together.

1. Word documents have a lot of extraneous material. They contain a lot more stuff in them than just the text that you put in. They contain a lot of defaults and also your name and information about your programs.

2. Word documents require the recipient to have proprietary software Word (and the correct version) to open and view. While one might argue that everybody has Word and it is an "emerging standard", this is not sufficient.

3. Word documents can be modified and then forwarded as if you wrote it. This cannot be done with pdf and other files where changes are documented and editing is not easily done.

4. Word documents are not truly cross-platform. Although Microsoft Word has versions for the Mac and Windows, they often do not share fonts or other characteristics so that the document actually may differ in formatting.

5. Word documents can contain viruses and other malicious agents that can damage your computer and others. One of the favorite ways for viruses to spread is through word documents.

By the way, most of the above is true of powerpoint and excel files as well. So, what is the solution? I usually use pdf (Adobe Acrobat) files. On the Mac, it is easy to save a file printed output in pdf format. What you see is what you get across all the platforms, regardless of font. The file is usually more compact, secure, and generally will not carry any viruses or malicious agents. PDF files can be be surreptitiously edited and modified. It is truly a universal format that can be displayed on Windows, Mac, Linux/Unix, and many older systems.

Wise.

nide44
04-14-2007, 11:00 AM
How would one save a document composed in Word, as a
.pdf Adobe Acrobat file to attach in an e-mail?
I've looked in my options drop-down menu, to 'save as'
& there is no .pdf option to save the file.

betheny
04-14-2007, 11:13 AM
There's a free program you can download called Cute here (http://www.cutepdf.com/Products/CutePDF/writer.asp). I don't have it but a colleague of mine does.

PDF format drives me crazy when I research because you can't copy/paste. Precisely the point, obviously. Until a year or so ago they had a function that enabled c/p, not anymore. Now you have to use the snapshot function and drop it somewhere, like into Paint.

Steven Edwards
04-14-2007, 11:19 AM
Use OpenOffice (http://www.openoffice.org/).

File->Export as PDF.

...or install an add-on (http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/word/HA101675271033.aspx).

nide44
04-14-2007, 11:34 AM
Is it necessary to have to use this Open Office to create all documents, or can I just use it to convert existing (or new) Word documents to a .pdf file?
I went there & it seems as if this pgm is meant to be used
instead of existing office pgms.
Does it makes using M$Office (Word, Excel, etc) 'obsolete'?
Do I have to use this new pgm, all the time as my default?

Patonb
04-14-2007, 11:48 AM
Open Office reads word files with no problems.

Leif
04-14-2007, 11:49 AM
PDF format drives me crazy when I research because you can't copy/paste. Precisely the point, obviously. Until a year or so ago they had a function that enabled c/p, not anymore. Now you have to use the snapshot function and drop it somewhere, like into Paint.
Buy Adobe InDesign CS2 or similar.

betheny
04-14-2007, 12:02 PM
I have Adobe Illustrator (which has really helped w/ rally artwork like placards, banners, badges etc. this year), haven't used it on text documents.

Steven Edwards
04-14-2007, 12:12 PM
nide,

Install the add-on I linked and you can still use MS Word.

Beth,

With PDFs, if you change to the selection tool, you can c/p.

Leif
04-14-2007, 12:16 PM
Illustrator works fine for that Beth, but for real desktop publishing you should check out InDesign (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Indesign).

Wise Young
04-14-2007, 08:10 PM
Is it necessary to have to use this Open Office to create all documents, or can I just use it to convert existing (or new) Word documents to a .pdf file?
I went there & it seems as if this pgm is meant to be used
instead of existing office pgms.
Does it makes using M$Office (Word, Excel, etc) 'obsolete'?
Do I have to use this new pgm, all the time as my default?

Nide,

Many (most) of us have Word and create our wordprocessing documents with Word. On the Mac, all programs can "print" to the disk, creating a pdf file. This is part of the Mac OSX system software. However, you need to use third party programs for this purpose on Windows. You can use the Adobe Acrobat program PDFMaker

http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=330729

or there are a number of utilities that allow you to do so.

http://www.pdf995.com/
http://www.primopdf.com/

There is even an online website that allows you to convert from word or powerpoint to pdf:

https://www.pdfonline.com/convert_pdf.asp

Microsoft has a website on the conversion to and from pdf:

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/word/HA011683331033.aspx

Wise.

nide44
04-15-2007, 09:59 AM
Thanks

iskumbro
04-15-2007, 10:34 AM
thanks too, very helpful.

nide44
04-15-2007, 10:51 AM
Use OpenOffice (http://www.openoffice.org/).
I tried to DL this, but with dial-up firefox said it'd take almost 6 hrs.
It looks interesting, so I ordered the CD for just $10.
I'll put it on both 'puters- home & work, & see how it runs
on XP (home), as opposed to 98SE (work).