Quads pay no Property Taxes in Florida!

[Norm]

What other states have this exemption. This should be nation wide. It may be the difference on whether I can afford to move out of state.

[Norm]

Exemption for Totally and Permanently Disabled Persons

1.Real estate used and owned as a homestead by a quadriplegic, less any portion used for commercial purposes, is exempt from taxation.




http://www.myflorida.com/dor/property/exemptions.html

[caton675@aol.com]

Please come to New Jersey :

[cathy j]

Wow Norm,
I had no idea this was possible anywhere!
I'm going to look into that in NJ, and maybe I'll come across info about other states as well, I'll post if I find out anything.
C

[Norm]

Hi Cathy, It should be nation wide. When I contacted PA Tax office a few years ago, they were like are you dreaming!

[cathy j]

Hey Norm,
I just went to the NJ Dept of Revenue, and emailed them the question.
I'll let you know when I hear.
Hey, if it is in NJ (highly doubt it, totally NOT a tax friendly state),
move here!
C

[Norm]

In PA they give only a $500 rebate.NJ is a little far for me. I really want to be close to my Dad & Grandmother.

[bob clark]

I'm a paraplegic and live in my own house in Florida. We have "Homestead Exemption" here which entitles everyone to exempt the first $25,000 off the assessed value of your home. For example, if its assessed value is $50,000 then you only pay property taxes on $25,000. And it's true that if you're a quad or a para you don't need to pay any property tax per se. I think property taxes are called "ad valorem" taxes. But in most, perhaps all counties (taxes are collected by the county) they have a tax called "non-ad valorem" taxes. This yearly tax is for things like the fire department and roads etc. and everyone pays them. I believe this year I'll be paying about $400. Not too bad I guess. Not that I enjoy paying taxes but everyone should pay a little bit to help out. You don't wanna feel like a total bum! :)

You may be surprised at how cheap housing is down here. I was born and raised in Levittown PA and my father only paid $9,500 for a brand new house back in 1955. But today those same houses can go for over $200,000 and they're only wood-framed houses. I'm sure most of them have been renovated and upgraded by now.... 50 years later.

Plus I hear the property tax rates are outrageous up north.

[Norm]

Not that I enjoy paying taxes but everyone should pay a little bit to help out. You don't wanna feel like a total bum! :)


If it could be the difference for some of us to able to live in our own home then it makes no sense to make quads pay. Florida is actually smart to try & keep their quads in their own homes instead of having to pay more to house them in a nursing homes. So Florida is actually saving tax payers money because they are doing the sensible thing.

[JGNI]

Exemption for Totally and Permanently Disabled Persons

1.Real estate used and owned as a homestead by a quadriplegic, less any portion used for commercial purposes, is exempt from taxation.




http://www.myflorida.com/dor/property/exemptions.html

Just amazing, I wish it was the same here in Canada, I pay more than 2000$ a year for a small condo. Florida, here I come :mega:

[Norm]

If I move to PA I will pay about $2600 or more :(

[vickylynn]

how do you find out i live in ga

vicky

[olossgirl]

we are in south Texas and we do get a discount due to my husband being a para ... this discount takes a whooping 75$ off of our 3500 $ taxes but hey we haven't turned it down better then nothing being knocked off

[Norm]

Vicky, look on your State Revnue Property Tax website.

Try here,
http://www.etax.dor.ga.gov/

[24/7 Quad]

Yep. Moved from Chalfont, PA to Florida and haven't paid property taxes since. I don't feel guilty at all. My wife does a huge number of things to keep the house up but we still have to hire people to do things I could do if I weren't disabled. My neighbors don't like it when they find out I don't pay property taxes, but it gets put back into perpective when I tell them I would gladly give up the tax exeption for a cure for SCI quadriplegia...

[Norm]

I just Faxed everyone in Congress from PA about this issue. Its free you just send an email that will convert to a fax. Its more effective when you use up their paper. Emails don't get read. I urge everyone to do it, lets make this nation wide!

http://www.congressfax.com/sendfax.html

[Steven Edwards]

From the Charleston County Citizen's Guide (http://www.charlestoncounty.org/pages/stats/budgetpdfs/Citizens%20Guide%202005.pdf):

The first $50,000 of the value of an owner-occupied residence is exempt for all legal residents of South Carolina that have resided in the state for at least one year on or before December 31 of the year prior to exemption and are one of the following:

$ 65 on or before December 31, preceding the tax year in which you wish to claim exemption
$ certified totally and permanently disabled by State or Federal agency
$ legally blind
$ at least 50 years of age when your spouse who was eligible for exemption died

[Susan M]

Does anyone know what qualifies as permanently and totally disabled?

[Steven Edwards]

Does anyone know what qualifies as permanently and totally disabled? Generally, us.

[Norm]

Susan, I would say I am & have been for 23 years, barring a cure for SCI.

[Susan M]

Norm/Steven,

Even if we are employed and not eligible for SSI or SSDI?

Thx,
Susan

[Chris Chappell]

Sue, like Colin would let you move there? Haha

[Susan M]

LOL, Chris, not a snowball's chance in Florida that he would. Minnesota, Land of 10,000 Taxes...errr..Lakes, has the same deal, though. I was surprised. I doubt I'm eligible, though, darn it.

[cathy j]

Well, I knew New Jersey wouldn't give much, if anything....if there is a land of "10,000 taxes", it's NJ.
Following is a response I received regarding this issue for New Jersey;

"New Jersey resident homeowners, age 65 or older or permanently and totally disabled, or their unmarried surviving spouses may qualify for an annual deduction of up to $250 from real property taxes on their dwelling house. To qualify for the deduction the following conditions must be met:



· Must be legal resident of New Jersey for one year immediately prior to October 1 of the year before the year the deduction is claimed; and



· Must own the home for which the deduction is claimed and reside there as your principal or primary residence; and



· Annual income (exclusive of Social Security or, with limitations, similar government pension, disability or retirement programs) does not exceed $10,000 during the year for which the deduction is granted.



The maximum benefit amount that is excludable for the tax year 2005 is $23,320. This amount is changed annually to reflect a cost of living adjustment.



New Jersey law does not provide a property tax exemption based on particular disabilities. However, by law, property tax exemptions are available to certain nonprofit educational, religious, charitable, veteran, firefighter, youth and historic organizations which benefit the general public and which meet stringent eligibility criteria. The brochure “New Jersey Property Tax Benefits” is available on the New Jersey Division of Taxation, Local Property Tax website at http://www.state.nj.us/treasury/taxation/lpt/localtax.htm which contains information about New Jersey’s property tax relief programs such as the Property Tax Reimbursement(Tax Freeze); the Fair Rebate; the Property Tax Deduction/Credit; the Veteran’s Property Tax Deduction and the Disabled Veteran’s Exemption and contact numbers of the various programs.

Division of Taxation

Property Administration

Policy and Planning"

Now, I ask you, how could you even afford to own a home and income only less than $10,000 ?????

I guess it's better than nothing

[Norm]

I just sent about 10 stamped letters to different dept.s in the PA gov't.

Including the Senators & House.

Everyone needs to alert them & it should be law in every state.

[Norm]

Now, I ask you, how could you even afford to own a home and income only less than $10,000 ?????


There are loans from HUD & USDA Rural Development available to buy a home at 1%.

Plus Disabled people can inherit homes from family etc. Then they will have to sell it because they can afford property taxes.

[Norm]

I just found this out, this Bill could increase the tax rebate. It hasn't reach the Senate floor yet.

"There is a provision in law providing for a partial property tax rebate for disabled persons. There is also a bill to increase that rebate. We will keep your concerns in mind when these bills reach the senate floor for consideration."

http://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/LI/BI/BT/2005/0/SB0793P0986.HTM

[NoDecafPlz]

Thank you for jumping into this.

It is vital information.

Could you please link any info on HUD
loans. Do they pertain more to the area and not neccessarily
the disabled buyer? Would loans to the disabled
be more state than federally governed?

Thanks again.

Joe

[Norm]

I was directed more locally to section 8. I want to move to Delaware Co. so this is who I have to contact. This is an example. http://www.dcha1.org/index_files/page0050.htm

You would need to find similar in a NJ County. I'm still learning so it could be different. But I notice HUD seems to put out links locally. Start here for NJ, http://www.hud.gov/local/index.cfm?state=nj

[cass]

Be very careful with this. In my county in Washington state, this is only a deferral. I've seen the same elsewhere, also income caps.

http://www.co.snohomish.wa.us/documents/Departments/Assessor/seniordefs.pdf

[tegdirb]

I haven't read the whole thread, but wanted to say Arizona is tax free too.

[cass]

again, caution. a quick search brought this up.


http://www.azleg.state.az.us/legtext/43leg/2r/bills/hb2415h.htm

and this:

Arizona also provides property tax exemptions in varying dollar amounts to some disabled persons

and to widows and widowers whose spouses died while they were residents of Arizona. The dollar

amounts are scaled to the combined value of property owned but eligibility is restricted to taxpayers

with total incomes below prescribed levels. The maximum allowable exemption is $3,000, which is

equally applied to both the primary and secondary assessed values of the property.


http://www.arizonatax.org/Explanation%20of%20Property%20Taxes%202003.pdf#sea rch='arizona%20property%20tax%20disabled'

[Norm]

I hope more people post from every state. So this thread could be a reference. Or get people to lobby their State.

[NoDecafPlz]

Norm,

my company has a setup in Jacksonville.

There appears to be several reputable hospitals
in Jacksonville, Mayo Clinic etc. With brand new, one level
homes for around 200,000.

Can you think of any reasons why the no tax for paralysis
injuries wouldn't apply?

Joe

[30something]

Thanks for this info!!
I checked Georgia and and couldn't find exemptions for the enitire state, but they go by counties, so I looked up the county we live in and we do get a discount. I called the tax assessor's office and we are too late for this year :( but we can file before June 30th of next year.

Here is Ga's Property Tax website: http://www.etax.dor.ga.gov/ptd/adm/taxguide/exempt.shtml


Once there you'll need to look up your county.

Thanks all for saving us some $$$$!

[Joisliniad]

SC also has property tax free for SCI. 2 free property tax vehicle, and in your house, if you own land and a house, up to 1 acre where your house is located.

[Norm]

NoDecafPlz, look in to it, are u a Quad? then there should be no problem. There's i think a $500.00 discount for Paras.

Even if its not in your county or state. Everyone needs to alert the counties by using Florida & others as an example. It should be universal. Why should we be stuck in certain areas because of our disabilities.

[HR]

Does anyone know if California has any property tax breaks for the disabled?

Thanks,
HR

[Norm]

HR, This is what I found.

Q: Is tax-payment assistance available to senior citizens, and those who are blind or disabled?
A: Yes. The insert mailed along with your annual tax bill explains the two programs that offer such relief: the property-tax postponement and the property-tax assistance programs.

http://www.sdcounty.ca.gov/ttc/pt_exem_excl.html#seniors_disabled

[Tim C.]

new york. Any available rebates hidden within the NYS tax codes?
thank you

[bob clark]

new york. Any available rebates hidden within the NYS tax codes?
thank you

In Florida there aren't any property tax "rebates" at all. You have to apply for the disability exemption up front in order to get it. I once failed to mail in the paperwork (doctor signed disability verification) in a timely manner and had to pay my full property tax assessment. Grrrrr. Needless to say it was a very lean Christmas that year. :) I even spoke with the people in the tax appraiser's office before the bill was actually due but since my paperwork was late they wouldn't budge. No exceptions.

In Florida you don't need to send in this special paperwork every year. Just once in awhile when they check to make sure you're still disabled. It's only happened to me once in 15 years.

As far as ANY hidden rebates (property tax and otherwise) in NYS I don't know.

[sweetnsassy_29511]

ANYONE RECEIVING DISABLITY BENEFITS ie: SS OR SSI DOES NOT PAY PROPERTY HOMESTEAD TAXES, YOU ARE ALSO ALLOWED 1 VEHICLE.
IT CANNOT BE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, AND THE VEHICLE MUST BE IN YOUR NAME. IF YOU HAVE A CHILD, GIVE PROOF OF PARENTHOOD AND YOU CAN BE EXEMPT FROM VEHICLE PROPERTY TAXES ALSO

[Norm]

In Maryland I can only see an exemption for blind & veterans. We SCI are getting screwed. We are to few & the forgotten! I guess we are supposed to end up in nursing homes.

http://www.dat.state.md.us/sdatweb/taxcredits.html

[smokey]

Man, as a quad, I'd LOVE to get off the real estate tax rolls here in Massachusetts. I pay a little over $7000/year in real estate taxes. What pisses me off the most is that the local school system is the largest user of the town funds, they want (and get) more money every year, the school staff is bloated with administrative deadbeats and I don't have any brats to use the schools in the first place! Plus the weather sucks.

[FREEJ]

Smokey,,,,,,, I totally relate,,,, 'don't know where you live on East coast, but I'm in NJ, North Jersey. My current real estate taxes are $6,800 and our town is being reassessed after the first quarter '06---I'll be put over 7k. Like you I have no longer have kids in the school system; our school syst is one of the highest salaried didsticts, 'n ''I KNOW'' it's full of ''Pork'' for ppl to get fat on. And aft 25 yrs SCI,,, I am DONE with the sucky Jersey weather----4 mos good, 8 mos from ok to SUCK. Enuff talking for me, MUST take action---or stop bitching. ''I'm gonna b looking at F'n $7,250+ in taxes,,,,,F.''


Norm:
,,,,,,,,,, '' In Maryland I can only see an exemption for blind & veterans. We SCI are getting screwed. '' We are to few & the forgotten! I guess we are supposed to end up in nursing homes. ''

Norm,,,,, I live my life as positive as possible, but Yeahhh,,,,,, your kinda catching on ie. ''few/forg.'' Or,,,,,,,,, stay on YOUR own positive track, do what YOU gotta do, 'n fight like hell for YOUR self/health.

''I am certainly not an ''I'' guy,,, but ''tooo much'' of looking out for others,,,got me slipping 'n now playing catch up---it's now Freej time.''

However,,,:) :) :) ,,,Freej.

[smokey]

Exactly what is the "theory" or rationale for exempting disabled folks from paying real estate taxes in FL or any other state anyway? Don't get me wrong...I'm behind it 100%, but what type of argument could I make to my local state representative here in Massachusetts if I was to make a rational, calculated proposal like that to him? Is it because they just feel sorry for disabled folks? Statistically, are we "earning impaired" as well as physically impaired? Can anyone cite any data that indicates disabled folks are less able to work, less able to afford homes, have larger medical bills than the average person, have less insurance, have less income, less savings, less investments etc.? Thanks

[Norm]

This is what I wrote, I have had a very positive response. They seem to be having the same problem with the elderly.


Dear XXXXXX, I would like to bring to your attention of a problem that I'm having. In 1982 while living in Media, PA. I was struck by a car on a bicycle and left a quadriplegic. In 1992 I relocated to Florida for physical therapy. I while I was living in Florida I found out that quadriplegics were exempt from property taxes. Which is a great thing the State of Florida is doing. I am now attempting to move back to Delaware County, PA. But as a disabled person I am finding that I may not be able to pay for my daily living expenses on SSI. I would like the State of Pennsylvania to consider following Florida and a few other states in creating a Quadriplegic Property Tax Law similar to Florida's. Otherwise when I move back to Pennsylvania, I may not be able to pay my bills I may end up in a nursing home at the state's expense. Which in my opinion would cost the state much more money than waving the property tax fee's for quadriplegics. Below is the property tax exemption for quadriplegics by the State of Florida.
Exemption for Totally and Permanently Disabled Persons,
1.Real estate used and owned as a homestead by a quadriplegic, less any portion used for commercial purposes, is exempt from taxation. http://www.myflorida.com/dor/property/exemptions.html

[24/7 Quad]

Exactly what is the "theory" or rationale for exempting disabled folks from paying real estate taxes in FL or any other state anyway? Don't get me wrong...I'm behind it 100%, but what type of argument could I make to my local state representative here in Massachusetts if I was to make a rational, calculated proposal like that to him? Is it because they just feel sorry for disabled folks? Statistically, are we "earning impaired" as well as physically impaired? Can anyone cite any data that indicates disabled folks are less able to work, less able to afford homes, have larger medical bills than the average person, have less insurance, have less income, less savings, less investments etc.? Thanks

I don't knowwhat the exact theory is but when my neighbors find out I don't pay property taxes, I tell them I spend an enormous amount of money on things an able bodied person could do themselves. Cut the lawn, clean the gutters etc. I then tell them I would gladly pay my taxes, and theirs, not to be in this situation. Good luck with taxachusetts. It would be easier to move than to eliminate some of your state revenue.

[FREEJ]

Hi All,,,, very informative thread. I'm here[for now] in NJ, '' the state of Corruption 'n Taxes''--it's f'n ridiculous.

For those who have inquired to their state regarding tax discounts/omissions for SCI/dis: '' What state agency/dept's, do you inquire to??

I want to find out about primarily ''NV'', AZ, TX.

Freej

[bcripeq]

MT only applies to disabled veterans.

[cass]

mods....why is this in caregiving? wouldn't the life forum be more applicable?

[Norm]

I'm trying to find the tax info in Nevada. Anyone happen to know?

[SCI-Nurse]

Norm, it looks like you are out of luck in Nevada unless you are blind or a disabled veteran:

http://assessor.co.douglas.nv.us/exemptio.htm

(KLD)

[ChesBay]

It doesn't have to be state relief neccessarily. The city I live in has an "Elderly and Disabled Tax relief program" it is sliding scale based on income. If income is low enough around $20,000. for one person 100% of tax is exempt then goes up from there.

You may want to check localities for such programs...

As far as the origin of such programs they were started for the elderly here. People would retire and find 15-20 years into retirement their property assessments had increased 200-300%. The city decided to cut people on fixed / limited incomes a break. ( otherwise for people with very low incomes they would have to move.. with property values high they could sell but still not afford to buy in the area because everything is expensive)

Editied to add link showing how Norfolk , VA program works. Other cities in this area have similar programs.
http://www.norfolk.gov/revenue/retxrelf/main.htm

[Tim C.]

NORM,
YOUR INFORMATION HAS BEEN A WELCOME EYE OPENER FOR MANY.
THANK YOU.
As long as this thread has taken on a life of its own, a direction off course from CAREGIVING, I might as well perpetuate it by asking clarification for the following;
Typically, the term: annual real estate property tax refers to the aggregation of:
- state tax
- county tax
- town tax
- school district tax

When reference is made to state property tax exemption, does it include all the above listed components?
Thanks

[Norm]

Tim, Yes. I pay no property taxes as listed in the link above.

[Norm]

I found some info on San Diego. :mad:
http://www.co.san-diego.ca.us/arcc/services/homeowners_exempt.html

[Norm]

Add to the above about San Diego. It could be better.

Property Tax Assistance
If you are blind, disabled, or 62 years of age or older and on limited income, you may be eligible for one of the following programs:
(2) Homeowner’s Assistance
If you have a limited annual income, the State may provide for partial reimbursement on the property taxes on your home. Filing for this program will not result in a lien being placed on your property. The filing period is from July 1 through June 30. For more information and the necessary application, call the State Franchise Tax Board (toll free) at (800) 338-0505 or visit them on the web at www.ftb.ca.gov (http://www.ftb.ca.gov/).

Q: What is the Property Tax Assistance Program?
A: This state program is a once a year cash reimbursement for a portion of the property taxes paid. This amount will not have to be repaid and will not result in a lien being placed on your home.
Q: What are the qualifications to receive this reimbursement?
A: To be eligible for this program, you must be disabled, blind, or 62 years of age or older, and have an annual household income of less than $33,000. The property also must be your principal place of residence. The annual filing period is May 16 through August 31. For the necessary claim form and further information, please contact the State Franchise Tax Board at 1-800-852-5711

[sjean423]

It looks like there is a tax relief program available in connecticut as well.

According to the State of CT Office of Policy and Management.


http://www.opm.state.ct.us/igp/grants/CIRCUITB.HTM

Quote: (in part)

Program Description State law provides a property tax credit program for Connecticut owners in residence of real property, who are elderly (65 and over) or totally disabled, and whose annual incomes do not exceed certain limits. The credit amount is calculated by the local assessor and applied by the tax collector to the applicant's real property tax bill. The amount of the credit that may be granted is up to $1,250 for married couples and $1,000 for single persons. Credit amounts are based on a graduated income scale. Application may be made with the Assessor's Office between February 1 and May 15th.
The Homeowner Question & Answer Booklet (http://www.opm.state.ct.us/igp/grants/taxrel/owner_q.htm) is available for this program. The municipal Claim Form (M-35b) (http://www.opm.state.ct.us/igp/grants/TAXREL/owner_c.htm#M-35b) is also available.
For Further Information, Please Contact:
Ronald Madrid: phone (860) 418-6322 - fax (860) 418-6493 - e-mail - ronald.madrid@po.state.ct.us
Intergovernmental Policy Division (http://www.opm.state.ct.us/igp/about/igp.htm)


From the Question and Answer Booklet, in the link above:

Quote:

18. Q. WHAT CONSTITUTES QUALIFYING INCOME FOR HOMEOWNERS SEEKING TAX RELIEF CREDIT?

A. Owners' qualifying income must not exceed $27,700 for unmarried persons, and $33,900 for a married couple ............


This Q and A booklet is 38 pages long, so obviously it is necessary to read through this carefully. Disability is defines by SSDI.

I don't qualify due to joint income limits so I didn;t read it in its entirety, but wanted to post this info.

[sjean423]

There are also many towns in Connecticut that also offer tax relief to the elderly and disabled. The town exemptions have different income numbers.

I found this information simple by googling "tax relief disabled" and my state or town name. Everyone should check out their own situation.

[stormie427]

thanks for the heads up on that information sjean. i'm grew up in connecticut and jim and i visited this past spring. he loved it that much and my family that he said he'd like to spend more time up there. any way...he thought about buying something, but i assumed the taxes would be sky high. this would be great if he could get some tax relief. thanks again!

i just did some quick reading...it says that u can't make a certain income. in florida it doesn't matter what u make...NO TAXES.

[zillazangel]

North Carolina too ... holy cow! Wish chad had known about this before we married ....

http://www.dornc.com/practitioner/property/exemptions.html

Maybe it will help someone else though. I agree that this thread should be moved to the Life forum - would not want anyone to miss this info!!!

Found more: also applies to INCOME tax!!

http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/HTML/BySection/Chapter_105/GS_105-151.18.html

[cass]

i owned a home in rancho bernardo (san diego), but my job income too high.

again, i caution folks to really ask questions. so many of these are income related or deferrals. if they aren't, that's great. but...just make sure.

[Cris]

Actually quads do pay ad valorem taxes and mine was about $600 last year. Better than the paying it all.

[Norm]

Has any states changed their tax laws? This needs to be taken up by the SCI community.

[Eileen]

Wow, Florida suddenly seems like a VERY good place to live! Massachusetts has nothing like that at all, and I pay a bundle for my little condo here.

[ala]

For those who want to know about Florida, I saw some earlier post that I would like to clear up. Quads are exempt from ad valorem taxes. This is true, but the non-ad valorem taxes, which are assesments, can still be large. Any para or quad that is a veteran is also exempt. As for other para's, good luck. You can get an exemption but your household income must be under a certain amount ($22k gross last time I checked). This amount changes every year and it includes ALL income from ALL sources and ALL persons living in the house, even kids.

[smokymtn memories]

Just rec'd our tax bill for this year. State of TN tax relief for the elderly or 100% disabled: Elderly: You were 65 years old or older as of 12-31-07
Disabled: You must be 100% disabled as rated by the Social Security Administration or other qualifying agency AND the total amount of all persons income on the deed did not exceed $24,000

Our local office that sends out the property tax bills has this printed on the reverse side of the bills.

Hope this might help someone.

[porchdog]

Major Personal Taxes In Kentucky

Property owners age 65 and over or totally disabled are allowed a homestead exemption on their principal owner-occupied residences, adjusted every two years for changes in the U.S. Consumer Price Index. The Homestead Exemption amount for 2007 has been adjusted to $31,400. Condominium units qualify for the exemption. (KRS 132.810)

[DMann1746]

Has Pa changed its property tax laws because of your efforts? Does Pa have a website that summerizes disability related tax laws? Thanks.

[Norm]

Has Pa changed its property tax laws because of your efforts? Does Pa have a website that summerizes disability related tax laws? Thanks. I wish. They need to hear from more people than just me.

[addiesue]

Just rec'd our tax bill for this year. State of TN tax relief for the elderly or 100% disabled: Elderly: You were 65 years old or older as of 12-31-07
Disabled: You must be 100% disabled as rated by the Social Security Administration or other qualifying agency AND the total amount of all persons income on the deed did not exceed $24,000

Our local office that sends out the property tax bills has this printed on the reverse side of the bills.

Hope this might help someone. Are they saying you must be 100% disabled as in you do not work at all? I should be buying a place next year and I'm curious.

[monkster]

Just a quick note - para's in FL don't get jack shit, just quads. I got hit up for $3600 last year. Outright discrimination I say!

[Norm]

Just a quick note - para's in FL don't get jack shit, just quads. I got hit up for $3600 last year. Outright discrimination I say! I'll trade you the tax break to be a Para in a heart beat.

[NoDecafPlz]

I'll trade you the tax break to be a Para in a heart beat.

Good point Norm. I hate to split hairs, but my injury site is C7-T1.

Is the state of Florida like insurance companies saying that if you can hold a ten-pound weight in your hand and raise it over your head, you're not a quad?

What's the terminology that separates an incomplete quad from a para?

[Norm]

Good point Norm. I hate to split hairs, but my injury site is C7-T1.

Is the state of Florida like insurance companies saying that if you can hold a ten-pound weight in your hand and raise it over your head, you're not a quad?

What's the terminology that separates an incomplete quad from a para? You may have a break at C-7 - T1. But whats the level of your cord damage. I have a break at C-4 to T2. But I'm a C5/6 quad because thats where my cord was damaged.

[smokymtn memories]

Are they saying you must be 100% disabled as in you do not work at all? I should be buying a place next year and I'm curious.

Addiesue, I typed that right off the back of the tax bill. Sounds like you have to be 100 percent disabled according to the guide lines of the social security administration's definition. Whatever the bloody heck it is, they've denied me twice and I've been waiting about a year, so far, for the wonderful court date.

I guess I can't complain too much, I was misdiagnosed the first go around. They said I just had DDD in my lower back at L-4. They kind of missed my broken neck C-4-5-6. Honest mistake. Ha!

[NoDecafPlz]

You may have a break at C-7 - T1. But whats the level of your cord damage. I have a break at C-4 to T2. But I'm a C5/6 quad because thats where my cord was damaged.

No, it was a burst fracture.

I mean, if I have hands, I'm not considered a quad then?

What is Florida's interpretation?

[Norm]

No your not a quad if your arms & hands are normal.

[Norm]

Any news in any states in the tax relief direction? I've decided to give it a try to see if I can change the law in PA.

[Norm]

Any news in other states?