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alan
02-03-2005, 06:15 PM
Found in braintalk.org "Spinal Disorders" forum:

LETTER TO PEOPLE WITHOUT CHRONIC PAIN:

Having chronic pain means many things change, and a lot of them are invisible. Unlike having cancer or being hurt in an accident, most people do not understand even a little about chronic pain and its effects, and of those that think they know, many are actually misinformed.

In the spirit of informing those who wish to understand.
These are the things that I would like you to understand about me before you judge me...

Please understand that being sick doesn't mean I'm not still a human being. I have to spend most of my day in considerable pain and exhaustion, and if you visit, sometimes I probably don't seem like much fun to be with, but I'm still me-- stuck inside this body. I still worry about school, my family, my friends, and most of the time I'd still like to hear you talk about yours, too.

Please understand the difference between "happy" and "healthy". When you've got the flu, you probably feel miserable with it, but I've been sick for years. I can't be miserable all the time. In fact, I work hard at not being miserable. So, if you're talking to me and I sound happy, it means I'm happy. That's all. It doesn't mean that I'm not in a lot of pain, or extremely tired, or that I'm getting better, or any of those things. Please don't say, "Oh, you're sounding better!" or "But you look so healthy!¨ I am merely coping. I am sounding happy and trying to look normal. If you want to comment on that, you're welcome.

Please understand that being able to stand up for ten minutes doesn't necessarily mean that I can stand up for twenty minutes, or an hour. Just because I managed to stand up for thirty minutes yesterday doesn't mean that I can do the same today. With a lot of diseases you're either paralyzed, or you can move. With this one, it gets more confusing everyday. It can be like a yo-yo. I never know from day to day, how I am going to feel when I wake up. In most cases, I never know from minute to minute. That is one of the hardest and most frustrating components of chronic pain.

Please repeat the above paragraph substituting, "sitting", "walking", "thinking", concentrating, "being sociable" and so on ... it applies to everything. That's what chronic pain does to you.

" Please understand that chronic pain is variable. It's quite possible (for many, it's common) that one day I am able to walk to the park and back, while the next day I'll have trouble getting to the next room. Please don't attack me when I'm ill by saying, "But you did it before!" or Oh, come on, I know you can do this!¡¨ If you want me to do something, then ask if I can.

In a similar vein, I may need to cancel a previous commitment at the last minute. If this happens, please do not take it personally. If you are able, please try to always remember how very lucky you are--to be physically able to do all of the things that you can do.

Please understand that "getting out and doing things" does not make me feel better, and can often make me seriously worse. You don't know what I go through or how I suffer in my own private time. Telling me that I need to exercise, or do some things to get my mind off of it¨ may frustrate me to tears, and is not correct if I was capable of doing some things any or all of the time, don't you know that I would? I am working with my doctor and I am doing what I am supposed to do.

Another statement that hurts is, "You just need to push yourself more, try harder..." Obviously, chronic pain can deal with the whole body, or be localized to specific areas. Sometimes participating in a single activity for a short or a long period of time can cause more damage and physical pain than you could ever imagine.

Not to mention the recovery time, which can be intense. You can't always read it on my face or in my body language. Also, chronic pain may cause secondary depression (wouldn't you get depressed and down if you were hurting constantly for months or years?), but it is not created by depression.


Please understand that if I say I have to sit down/lie down/stay in bed/or take these pills now, that probably means that I do have to do it right now - it can't be put off or forgotten just because I'm somewhere, or am right in the middle of doing something. Chronic pain does not forgive, nor does it wait for anyone.

If you want to suggest a cure to me, please don't. It's not because I don't appreciate the thought, and it's not because I don't want to get well. Lord knows that isn't true. In all likelihood, if you've heard of it or tried it, so have I. In some cases, I have been made sicker, not better. This can involve side effects or allergic reactions. It also includes failure, which in and of itself can make me feel even lower.

If there were something that cured, or even helped people with my form of chronic pain, then we'd know about it. There is worldwide networking (both on and off the Internet) between people with chronic pain. If something worked, we would KNOW. It's definitely not for lack of trying. If, after reading this, you still feel the need to suggest a cure, then so be it. I may take what you said and discuss it with my doctor.

If I seem touchy, it's probably because I am. It's not how I try to be. As a matter of fact, I try very hard to be normal. I hope you will try to understand. I have been, and am still, going through a lot. Chronic pain is hard for you to understand unless you have had it. It wreaks havoc on the body and the mind. It is exhausting and exasperating.

Almost all the time, I know that I am doing my best to cope with this, and live my life to the best of my ability. I ask you to bear with me, and accept me as I am. I know that you cannot literally understand my situation unless you have been in my shoes, but as much as is possible, I am asking you to try to be understanding in general.


In many ways I depend on you - people who are not sick. I need you to visit me when I am too sick to go out... Sometimes I need you help me with the shopping, cooking or cleaning. I may need you to take me to the doctor, or to the store. You are my link to the normalcy of life. You can help me to keep in touch with the parts of life that I miss and fully intend to undertake again, just as soon as I am able.

I know that I asked a lot from you, and I do thank you for listening. It really does mean a lot.



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TIPS FOR DEALING WITH PEOPLE IN PAIN

People with chronic pain seem unreliable (we can't count on ourselves). When feeling better we promise things (and mean it); when in serious pain, we may not even show up.

An action or situation may result in pain several hours later, or even the next day. Delayed pain is confusing to people who have never experienced it.

Pain can inhibit listening and other communication skills. It's like having someone shouting at you, or trying to talk with a fire alarm going off in the room. The effect of pain on the mind can seem like attention deficit disorder. So you may have to repeat a request, or write things down for a person with chronic pain. Don't take it personally, or think that they are stupid.

The senses can overload while in pain. For example, noises that wouldn't normally bother you, seem too much.

Patience may seem short. We can't wait in a long line; can't wait for a long drawn out conversation.

Don't always ask "how are you" unless you are genuinely prepared to listen it just points attention inward.

Pain can sometimes trigger psychological disabilities (usually very temporary). When in pain, a small task, like hanging out the laundry, can seem like a huge wall, too high to climb over. An hour later the same job may be quite OK. It is sane to be depressed occasionally when you hurt.

Pain can come on fairly quickly and unexpectedly. Pain sometimes abates after a short rest. Chronic pain people appear to arrive and fade unpredictably to others.

Knowing where a refuge is, such as a couch, a bed, or comfortable chair, is as important as knowing where a bathroom is. A visit is much more enjoyable if the chronic pain person knows there is a refuge if needed. A person with chronic pain may not want to go anywhere that has no refuge (e.g.no place to sit or lie down).

Small acts of kindness can seem like huge acts of mercy to a person in pain. Your offer of a pillow or a cup of tea can be a really big thing to a person who is feeling temporarily helpless in the face of encroaching pain.

Not all pain is easy to locate or describe. Sometimes there is a body-wide feeling of discomfort, with hard to describe pains in the entire back, or in both legs, but not in one particular spot you can point to. Our vocabulary for pain is very limited, compared to the body's ability to feel varieties of discomfort.

We may not have a good "reason" for the pain. Medical science is still limited in its understanding of pain. Many people have pain that is not yet classified by doctors as an officially recognized "disease". That does not reduce the pain, - it only reduces our ability to give it a label, and to have you believe us.

Alan

There's a fungus among us, and I'm not lichen it!

Tim C.
02-11-2005, 08:18 AM
alan,
thank you,
so much of what you write applies.
add the chronic pain to high quad life, plus on/off care, uneasy homelife, and you have a recipe for hell. i wish i could inject the meaning of your words into those circulating within my small world. unfortunatly, no one cares to even read it.

alan
02-11-2005, 06:12 PM
It is a problem getting people to take the time to learn about our world. "Just be glad you're alive" is a common refrain.

Alan

There's a fungus among us, and I'm not lichen it!

JnWalker
02-15-2005, 01:13 AM
Wow, i can relate to a lot of that in many ways. I only wish i could show people the kind of pain i have to endure day in and day out. I always tell them that its something they cant understand unless it happens to them. I often wish I could show my family & friends exactly what I & lots of others living with chronic pain have to deal with just by touching them. Give them a glimpse of a few seconds of what we suffer. Four seconds of intense pain can seem like an eternity & can strike at any moment. Sorry for the rambling but its something that really gets to me when i read or hear about this. I do the best to explain to others what people living with chronic pain have to deal with but usually falls on deaf ears. Unfortunately they wont ever know or fully understand until they are in that situation. Thanks for posting!

WITCHYWOMAN
02-16-2005, 01:37 PM
Alan

sharon winters

WITCHYWOMAN
02-16-2005, 01:42 PM
Aaln I am new to this I FOUND IT BY LOOKING FOR PEOPLE IN CHRONIC PAIN I FEEL SO ALONE IN THE FEELING i AM HAVING AND THEN I STARTED READING THE POSTS ON HERE AND FIND THER ARE MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE IN THE SAME SHAPE I AM ORHAVE IT MUCH WORSE THAN i DO SO HERE I am and I HOPE TO LEARN A LOT FORM EVERYONE HERE I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT OTHER PEOPLE DO CARE .....TAKE CARE

sharon winters

alan
02-16-2005, 06:20 PM
I'm glad the letter is helpful. I thought it might be when I found it.

Alan

There's a fungus among us, and I'm not lichen it!

zippysgoddess
02-19-2005, 04:06 AM
I think we should all print these and paste them on our front doors with the rule that no one can enter until they have read them all in their entirety!

I have a friend who can never understand why I don't want to be drug off to a dozen stores in one day, spending hours in each. She tries to guilt me into going, I used to give in to her but have recently gotten an attitude about it!!

Leo
02-20-2005, 02:11 PM
Thanks Alan, I don't have it cp, a friend in my hometown does and you folks. yes i feel blessed and man hope somethin comes soon.

i am going to copy it and put with some hand outs.

"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given you."
Gandolf the Gray

Skye83
02-21-2005, 04:28 PM
Alan, I'm glad you found this and took the time to post it. I printed it out, but I'll have to be very selective about who I think would even take the time to read it.

btw, your sig puts a smile on my face.

alan
02-21-2005, 06:19 PM
It's an old line I heard once. I figured the "...Germans attacked Pearl Harbor" line fromm "Animal House" was getting old.

Alan

There's a fungus among us, and I'm not lichen it!

Ruth
05-23-2005, 02:20 PM
Thank you for posting this article. It is refreshing to read.

I am a completely AB individual that deals only with the minimal pain that comes with repetitive joint use and very minor arthritis in said joint. I am very concerned with anyone's pain. For years I have worked as a PCA, both with an agency and privately. I have been pooped on, puked on and peed on. None of that bothers me. What is truly heartbreaking is seeing someone dealing with debilitating pain or intense nausea. Lately I am thinking a great deal about returning to school, to obtain a nursing degree, so that I can eventually do all I can, one patient at a time, to ease pain.
In the meantime, I am studying for licensure in massage therapy.

To those of you who deal with chronic pain, please know that there are people on the other side of the fence that care deeply about what you go through.

WM
05-23-2005, 11:34 PM
Yes, thank you for posting this, alan. http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif I don't know how I missed it before. I wish someone would also write a similar "letter to those without a spinal cord injury".

~~~Honesty is the best policy~~~Treat others as you would like to be treated~~~Play hard, but play fairly~~~

dejerine
05-24-2005, 06:24 PM
WM

Here is one, but you won't like it

To those without spinal cord injury.

Please stop telling me that heaven will be great, and I won't even think about losing sensation or motor activity because we will all be spirits and leave behind these loathsome bodies of flesh. I know already how much of my identity has been lost because of the loss of sensation and movement ie I miss my body. In fact, I don't recognize myself, and what's more I dont' recognize life or living. How much of this is due to pain and how much to the other losses I don't know. However, I would recommend you quit giving me platonic religious guesses and be very glad for the body you have, take care of it, enjoy it, and don't count on loving being a spirit. Let's face it. You haven't any idea whether being a ghost is cool or not. For me, I think of heaven as having my body back. Let me think on resurrection ,whether or not you believe in it, and don't assume spirits have it all In other words, think about what you derive in identity from having a body and ask yourself if you would really know who you are without one.

Love us. If it weren't for us handicapped people, the rest of you would have no place to park when you are in a hurry. Don't park in the handicapped parking spaces because you are old (above 55), short, fat, or whatever, unless you really need to. You crowd my car and make it difficult to get in and out. I don't like bumping my head on the upper door rim because I cannot fit in the space left for the door to open, and I cannot measure where my body parts are anyway. It is a struggle to get across the asphalt also, so please think about it.

Stop sending your children in to use the handicapped restroom stall because it is cleaner. Ask the management to clean the regular stalls instead. When we need to go, we need to go and having children or employees spending forever in there is tough.

Do not recommend copies of inspirational books by quads who climbed mount everest, carrying only lintels in their pouches. I think Christopher Reeve was about as strong as he could be, and he didn't make any claims of climbing mountains, (although he did actually climb some of course), beyond describing his struggle to deal with and to help cure SCI and paying tribute to his wife (but it shouldn't all have been on him or her to get something done--they needed to just live). I already have his books though. Would you like to borrow one and read it?

Don't ask me to go to yet another spine hospital where they will surely "cure" me. If surgeries helped, I would be peachy keen by now. Also don't try to get me to take unproven remedies such as herbs or swimming with dolphins. They are not going to restore my cord. Cure your common cold and then you can advise me of what medicine has to offer that is new.

Don't ask me to inspire you or give inspirational speeches to those of you with hangnail or whatever. (we all know that regular pain is just a poor quality knockoff of central pain) I am hurt. YOU INSPIRE ME instead. You give me a speech, but please leave out the word "lucky". You are the one who is well. Use your resources to lift me.

Don't ask me to donate to high school choirs who are taking vacations to France or China to "perform", and their leader gets to go free of course. With the price of drugs, until we can buy in Canada, please ask someone else. I am sympathetic to saving the penguins and having youth activity centers so kids don't fall into gang and drug use, but I want to see money for spinal cord injury first, so I don't fall into drug use; excuse me, further into drug use.

If I use poor judgment in trying to be human, try to overlook it. I don't know what I am supposed to be shooting for now, so I tend to miss the mark with regularity.

If I tell you I cannot do something, don't ask me to do it anyway. I am already trying harder.

Dont' smile and charge me twice retail for aids just because items for the handicapped are a small market. They have wheelchairs, reachers, walkers, and other aids at Harbor Freight of all places for one fifth what the guy in the suit sold them for at the nice mall store.

Stop getting creeped out by SCI--when you do, it creeps me out further.

And by the way, I do really appreciate the many helpful people out there, who are the clear majority. The minority just seem to get around quite a bit. That applies to the mobility problems,

As to understanding Central Pain, I think everyone belongs to the majority, who should often be a silent majority, ie they should think instead of rushing to say something corrective to me since they are completely without imagination to understand what constant burning would be like, or that it could exist.

Dont' act like I am insulting God to tell you what CP is really like. I am insulting the scientific community for assuming the brain cannot be studied, so they send our money far far out into space instead, although it is hard to tell since Voyager is nine billion miles out now, and the scientists still can't agree if it is really in outer space yet. I say let's spend ten trillion and settle this controversy. NASA's new motto. If you get a picture of it, it is worth it no matter what it cost. They should quit naming the rocks of Mars things like "Fred". At those prices they should name them, "Bill Gates", "Warren Buffet", "Howard Hughes" "Paris Hilton", "LL Cool J" etc." Since they name every rock, they will get there soon. I think "Enron" would be a good name.

I don't know if it is true, but someone said more is spent for SETI, search for extraterrestrial intelligence, than for basic pain research. This is probably false, but I heard the budget for SETI is 25 million over and above the initial telescopes and that NIH only spends about five million at the basic level on pain. The drug companies would like to have a drug so hopefully they will score soon.

[This message was edited by dejerine on 05-24-05 at 09:07 PM.]

[This message was edited by dejerine on 05-24-05 at 09:22 PM.]

[This message was edited by dejerine on 05-24-05 at 09:39 PM.]

WM
05-24-2005, 08:33 PM
dejerine you are right, I don't like it, because it's so true. But, I am thankful, that in this world there are people like you who can describe perfectly exactly what I would like to tell people, but just don't have the eloquence or experience to do so. But, then I think, how selfish of me, to be so thankful for you. I'd much rather you have no reason to be even be on this board, for me to have never read a word you said, because you didn't need this place, and neither did I, and didn't even know it existed. I feel selfish for being so grateful that you are here too. I am sorry. Thank you for writing this dejerine. I'm crying now, but it's what I needed to pass on to others and I couldn't write it myself since I'm not the one who is injured and in pain. Thanks for being so real. http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif

~~~Honesty is the best policy~~~Treat others as you would like to be treated~~~Play hard, but play fairly~~~

young_girl
05-25-2005, 01:26 PM
Wow... Couldn't have written the letter better myself..

It makes is harder when people dont understand, while Im coping with the neverending pain. The things explained in the letter, are things I try to explain to my friends and family everyday!
I'll print this and give to them! http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif
-Thank you so much-

~She was once a dreamer~

tame kitty
05-25-2005, 04:22 PM
Thank you, Alan.
I know all of you can imagine how many times I have paraphrased the content of both letters. In particular "To people without pain". I have difficulty explaining the variations of pain with two close friends, one with CP and my other friend with MS. They just don't understand because I can walk that I am not as strong as a horse, nor in a tremendous amount of pain, at any given time.

I think the worst part is that after hearing our complaints for so long, they just tune us out.

Instead of hanging it up or in additon to framing it, I will copy it into a contract for all to sign.
Many thanks- Penelope

Wise Young
05-25-2005, 06:04 PM
Great letters, everybody. Wise.

mike bauer
05-25-2005, 09:36 PM
As a ranking member of the "stage 3 pain" club... I am happy someone else gets it and does understand it. Exactly, if one more goon tells me I sound great and must be doing great and feeling great, I will crap. Oh wait..... I cant do that either, at will. I am only doing great a few moments a day... the rest of the time I, wither, sweat, strain, lay down to vegitate through some of it... and just simply survive one more day... Thats as good as it gets! "I can handle it...... but can the rest of the damn world"
Mikey.

MSB.