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"It's actually easier to stand and walk than to sit. I don't know why."
Hm, if I sit hunched over here typing on this thing,
within hours this seems a good ticket towards faster becoming some hunchback.
(Although I assume this might open a position as bell ringer in Notre Dame? http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif )
Walking and standing spinal segments positions seems less unmoving rigid to each other (than sitting). The movemens allowing for way more differing positions. And I'm not sure if there's alike sort of discs or so between that might get less "pressed together" this way?
Anyway, I thought maybe to do with more position shifts standing,
and far more walking.
With longer concentration problems one can partially inform people about it.
Even if they don't heed it long, then if one loses track, in case anyone grumps, one might tell:"Well, I told you quite seriously, that I have problems with longer concentration."
Sometimes if I sense I currently have serious problems following, I also try to get another to watch along if it actually arrives with me.
If it gets real hard for me to follow, I might also consider to withdraw into my room eventually, towards some less straining occupation than listening.
If with some guest this would seem sort of too impolite,
various might also quite easily be gotten interested to take a look into some book, read some Garfield cartoon, or these "3-D" pictures that one has to look at strange, sort of overlaying points, to perceive what is on the picture.
For a while then a guest might be preoccupied with this.
I noticed that listening to radio BBC more often can also help training out listening attention spans to some extent.
There it doesn't matter for any other, if drifting off or not.
Very free to own choice, how long to listen.
Here they often have topics interesting enough, to seem worth the listening strains for a while.
With forgetting can be a problem.
For me maybe not even so much, concerning what another told me.
As even if not straight recollecting at all about something the other told me another time, if repeated, I might start to recollect parts again.
The other then getting, I didn't forget all.
But a more serious problem can be, that I might totally forget what I already told about or not. Sometimes I ask before: "Did I ever tell you about ... ?"
Maybe try this with radio BBC sometimes.
I found this a quite suited method to improve listening capacities at least a bit.
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BTW, I have a sort of unusual sleeping method
I found quite useful for my back.
Although this room has a bed, I don't use it.
I folded one blanket, on the floor, and another on top.
Soft enough for me to sleep on, but hard enough for a quite unbending surface.
Not like wobbly mattresses.
I use, in old hitch-hiking travelling method, two pullovers folded on one side, so if sleeping sideways, the head is in a more straight line with the spine.
Not like with some cushions, way higher or lower.
Although no fan of sleeping on my back, I nevertheless roll over to the other side (without this "cushion" construction") in between,
to sleep a while with my back and head in quite a straight line.
This seems to help considerably, that my spine ain't so much alike bulge out in parts.
Basically I come from a clan tending towards hunchbacks in older age, and when I noticed it started with me, I was first at a loss what to do about it.
Tried stuffing some phone books between my back and alike some wobbly mattress in my old place, but this was too uncomfortable. After moving to this place, I had this blankets on the floor idea, and this seems way better for my back.
Also this idea with the cushion construction on the left side,
so I just need to roll over to the right, if wishing to sleep a while with my spine&head in a more straight line.
This contruction is neat, that spine segments can not alike bulge here and there as with some mattress.
When Andrew came with his method, I thought, what for should I try this, I'm quite content with mine.
Though actually thinking about his method and your problem, I just thought,
if very gradually over a long period of time trying towards this one,
if it would be bad or good or change nothing.
I assume it does change something with spinal segments positions a bit in average when sleeping.
Alike some sort of a bit more being stretched out, than pressed together, as with some more flat sleeping methods.
Anyway, might be irrelevant.
I didn't get well what keeps pain with you so high.
Just this with the sitting being harder than walking,
made me think, if spinal segments positions to each other might have also a bit
to do with it?
"Medicine & Science
Real misery of phantom pain"
This meaning the "scientific" ignoring of magic systems,
(also between people where some can perceive pain of another even over a meter or more away), and declaring whatever they don't comprehend "phantom"?
Or actually zero according systems reactions
outside those that might be needed to imagine also some phantom, monster or whatever?
"Nerves: The body's attempt to rewire itself after a stroke, amputation or spine injury can lead to agony without any usual cause."
Hm, apart from that I don't get why the rewiring itself
instead of effects, after some is already there to transmit again,
for example "messages" in context with damaged systems,
seems regarded more central,
I also don't get this "without any usual cause".
As with such differing as listed, this seems quite a number of persons.
Seeming usual enough there.
Didn't really seem like just one single case known,
where indeed one might think, how unusual.
Apart from this, with brain damages as stroke or spine injury,
or other systems damages as an amputation,
it seems to me somehow not unusual in any particular form,
that systems damages and pain are felt in context with this.
Strange and unusual might seem, if systems, though sensitive for the region where the damages occurred, would react alike nothing wrong there.
"Bob Lane (...) stroke (...) reduced peripheral vision in one eye."
Being too lazy to try searching through some neuro texts or so,
I just wondered idly, what brain system(s) tend to have with such?
Assuming it was not to do with within the eye?
Also I don't get from this part, where exactly the internal damages are.
I find this to complicate attempts to try to comprehend patterings
alike what follows about a leg.
If one knew, soandso systems got damaged,
if including ones having relays also with a leg,
one might start to think about this then.
Maybe also about stuff alike,
I think there was this experiment where the abuser front of persons of related kinds cut whiskers and then messed into the brain of women and men of related kinds held prisoners, and then someone trying to cross-deduct something to do with later differing high reactions sensory over to autism.
High reactions to touch or/and this or that there.
But without sector data given from where to where the damages extend
(and the MRI I think in this year was already invented,
and also magic check attempts if anything of significance is noticed)
it seems harder to comprehend patterings to some extent or speculate.
"But a few months later, the pain began."
(This for example also not telling, if any meds/drugs in this time were taken that can alter receptor molecule numbers.
Nor, if this is one of the people resting a lot and sort of respecting damaged systems.
Or one ruthlessly trying to force them to this or that,
messing massively into the healing processes running.
In other words, such info not there, seems to make it difficult to guess around,
if this just came somehow as some wake effect,
or if there was something in between happening maybe of significance
to also consider.)
"It began as just an odd tingling in his left leg."
Hm, I think I rather leave this now for comments to experienced with such having SCI.
(As the only sort of tinglings I can first think about, are to do with lacking supply,
or alike Restless Leg Syndrome.)
"But over several months, the sensation became more and more
painful, until it was excruciating. The strangest part of the phenomenon: Nothing at all was wrong with his leg."
So all sensory relays with brain systems undisturbed. Not alike something from up there not going down there. No damaged relays alike off or shut down, or so. It being excluded that not something was missing in signals down, of importance for something down there. Therefore any disturbances down there via such excluded?
Again, without listings what sectors got damaged in the brain,
how is one supposed to seriously think about the issue?
Hm, but O.K., tried without.
First options for theories I can think of:
1.: There were damages to something in the brain, having relays with down there.
Also that it was just one leg, seeems to speak for this.
I guess some neuro could be asked, peripheral vision in one (which?) eye
would blank out with what systems damaged?
The eyes nerves crossing aside, is there with one eye on a certain side a distinct whatever, which side then deeper in the brain damages might be?
Close to this region, are there any systems having relay connections with the left leg?
If so, which?
2.: A fixing on incoming signals, due to whatever causes,
over the months might alike highten internal structures for processing such.
Similar as using a brain system or several often for this or that, that eventually connections between cells might alter.
From what I understood in hippocampus, not sure how many other sectors maybe also, cell numbers can also alter.
I heard a more general whatever, that with either success or often using a region for something cell numbers can increase.
(However being unclear about to how many sectors this was (not) referring)
Whether connections, or also cells,
an increase if using systems often for something,
seems quite standard.
Therefore it might be speculated, if this happened there.
3. 1.+2.: It might be also wondered, if brain damages
caused a differences in relays to the leg, this causing disturbances there.
Then something as in theory 2 following.
(As this system might crash at quite inconvient timings,
I rather send this off. Continuation might follow.)
(...)
"It feels like my leg has been burned and I'm wearing sandpaper pants,"
-> Autist comment.
-> Autism literature.
Also: Which fabrics by various are more disliked or still better tolerated.
Note: If in genetic history from maybe over a billion years backwards to now,
taking a 1 m measure, the time from where our ancestors started to wear clothes,
till now,
might seem amazingly small on this.
The wearing of clothes touching against skin
for hundreds of millions of years was not customary among our ancestors.
If getting so high problems with it, why not consider some closer to the equator culture ("without winter"), where it is not customary to wear particularily much.
"a retired college biology professor"
Some resettling of interest directions might make note various data better.
For example a shift into a cross of some of neurology and "autism" observations.
(Mentioned some neuro and "autism" stuff.
Clothes aversions, or with parts of fabrics aversions, are not this uncommon with the latter.
Some interesting theories might be found about why such high reactions might be there.
However with various theories one might be better careful, even if stated alike facts, how erratic they might be.)
"Because the brush of a bedsheet can trigger the sensation, Lane rarely sleeps through the night. Even the breeze from a ceiling fan can bring on the pain."
That I don't recall in context with autism yet. And seems weird.
The guy does not happen to have no partner,
and some mental crisis in life not just in context with this,
where a leg fixation might come suited?
I've been in the Sahara, often no fan for weeks, and though first sweating till 1 a.m., eventually seeming getting used to it better.
So if a ceiling fan were regarded such a problem, why not switch it off.
This is also why I wondered, if the guy ain't got some cause for a mental fix on it.
As a bio smurf it might not be beyond his understanding,
that non-use might lead to decrease,
and high use to increase with various connections.
Nor might be be oblivious, that adrenaline can be quite a blocker against pain.
However instead of distractions with some adrenaline suited sports and films,
he seems to be busy with the ceiling fan, where I assume it has a switch-off button.
With a non-bio one might still assume, hm, maybe never heard about some cellular and cellular connection principles.
But with a bio? Even if not specialized into cell-bio, I assume the average bio smurf had quite a bit to do with cells and quite some stuff in context.
Even some acidhead MBD chaot like me, might have the idea to flip open some pages of a neuroanatomy book.
(Though after some joint just extinguished, might get even more chaotic: )
~"A brain stem region, located in the lateral medullary reticlular formation,gives rise to a descending noradrenergic projection that also suppresses pain transmission."
Guess if I had the problem, I might consider to find me some pics, and try
if aimings for there and some regulatatory influences can be figured out by me or not.
~"Damage to the optic tract or the lateral geniculate nucleus.,
also due to a vascular accident, produces a defect in the contralateral visual field."
(Hm, suspected already before something to do with geniculate, therefore go for thishttp://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif
What's near the lat. geniculate n.? ..."Ventral posterior n.: Input: SPINAL cord, ...
Output: Primary somatic SENSORY Cortex. Functions: TOUCH, limb position sense, PAIN, and TEMPERATURE sense.
Patterings match: "It feels like my leg has been BURNED." PAIN. TOUCH. SENSORY.
Aha.
For what we might call in German some "phi times" (over the) "thumb" estimate(d) thingie,
this sector nor far from geniculate looks not incompletely inconspicuous.
If it were my brain, the thought might occur, smurfing to a hospital, dudes, I wanna get me some MRIs, can you aim your artificial energies of the thingie, for them two thalamus sectors. If all still looks neat and proper there.
(Though for the typical Westie doc, one'd better word this very differingly.)
(BRB)
(...) I ain't mean, it gotta be this.
Some half-stoned on THC flipping through some pages of a never fully read neuro book (I don't think I ever read one in my life),
noticing more by chance, in the front somewhere it says p.148 some pain stuff, and writing off the lowest sentence on this page,
and of another, after having managed to find the optics chapter in the book, and there noticing some sort of drawings to do with parts of vision not there,
and next thinking, what's near geniculate,
ain't the most serious dx on Earth.
Maybe it's something totally differing there.
I can sometimes just semi-joke around.
Alike, if a retired college biology professor,
weren't preoccupied with the ceiling fan,
but managed somewhen to find the off-switch of this device,
there might be also ample time to flip through some neuro pages.
Way more, than some stoned MBD acidhead, somewhere between two joints,
is willing to spend with such.
Exaggerated, some professor might be expected, to have various capacities beyond
some MBD in a THC cloud.
With medial geniculate between lateral geniculate and ventral posterior n.,
it seems questionable, anyway, if the sort of arching geniculate makes,
would be sufficient, and there being options,
that some damage could hit lateral geniculate and ventral posterior,
but, at least in this text so far,
no indicator by me noticed for medial geniculate.
Though apart from this, can be entertaining to speculate around with wild guesses.
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Just got curious and flipped to Somatic Sensory chapter.
"Ventral posterior lateral nucleus mediates sensations from the limb and trunk."
"...": ~ The ventral posterior nucleus ... provides the dominant input to the primary somatic sensory cortex.
Sensory c.: Areas 3b and 1 play a major role in touch perception.
{Gee, just had a major word swap error, instead of "touch perception" "pain perception" first coming out. Didn't sleep last night. When getting tired, might be a bunch of word swaps, and not necessarily noticed. Might be better to not take this stuff here too serious, anyway, is more alike some thought game.}
If not having any relevant role with pain perception, or having some,
seemed to be argued about there, but I was too lazy to get it well.
However from there seems to go to insular cortex regions.
Not sure, wasn't there some article in CareCure mentioning insular cortex
in context with pain perception?
Thalamus ... posterior nuclear group (...) of nuclei located caudal and ventral to
the ventral posterior nucleus.
These nuclei, which have long been thought to participate in pain perception, are likely to be part of a variety of functional circuits.
(Another suspicious candidate group or not?)
Primary Somatic Sensory Cortex: Descending projection neurons: To
ventral posterior nucleus of the thalamus.
(Here we go again ...)
And to: striatum, brain stem, spinal cord.
From neurons located in layer 5.
To thalamus from 6.
Hm, one might wonder, in case ventral posterior got zoinked a badie in the first place,
if alike a long round is done, down to that leg and back,
or (//and) if shortcircuiting around in the melon?
Or IF some of the region got damaged, if any might come there from this leg and being too much for it, and overreactions being sent out from there to neighbours, +via sens.c. to insular c.?
Hm, entertaining game.
Wise Young
08-26-2003, 06:09 AM
A place for off-topic acid comments.
When you are finsished with your daft arrogance, notice that there were direct comments to direct stated of the original poster.
The first I noticed straight, is that you ... cut off an answer to a person wondering why sitting seemed more problems than standing or walking.
This person has explicitly before in that string appreciated comments I made to her text.
With the sector speculations in another post, I notice as usual with your outstanding unscientificness and daft arrogance, you did not bother to show any errors in these speculations.
Though I made clear in this sequence, that I found the given data quite wrong.
If being ever so convinced, it cannot possibly be what neuros might call homonymous hemianopia involved,
or thinking it is, but cannot be the lateral geniculate gyrus as I wondered if it might be, and must be the optic tract,
or think there cannot be thalamus damages as I wondered if there might be and if such might be in direct context with problems as the man there had (or still has),
a clear statement of what is regarded as erratic why might at least convey some scientificness with you in arguings left.
And I have decided I am going to repost posts where they belong.
Including your primitivism to as someone seeming pro-ESC making site dictatorshiop here by removing my cellular headline and sort of hushing a central criticism of mine of ESC dangers and considerations to the topic, under some SCI and MBD headline.
This was a cell comment.
Not an SCI or MBD comment.
It belonged exactly under CELL headline it had.
I am fed up with your ripping answers to persons (in this case here also to one who wrote before distinctly to appreciate all of a previous answer of mine)
away in your ...,... unscientific ...heading games.
And it amazes me little, you have so far been outstanding in not showing up errors in texts of mine,
even not ones where it might have been easy where I already made clear it's wild speculating that might be highly erratic,
as very often your research and knowledge does even seem to reach the capacities to do so.
Primitivist dictatorship of someone pretending scientificness not even getting to scientific proving statements as wrong,
but like some proletarian dictator just taking what is disliked, irregardless how correct it is, irregardless if it is an answer to someone having quite appreciated a previous answer and wondering about something answered to,
and ripping text out of context,
scrambling texts together not belonging together.
This will be a lot of work to repost these where they belong.
If you got nothing better to do, see to it that your moderators in the future save me silly shite, alike I am to take it, it was not some moderator of this site harassing me sexually via e-mail, but just some virus.
(But of course not the moderator,
who in CareCure seemed to suspect me to be source of what I regard her illusions.
And, after I made explicit she's not my friend, though could be called acquaintance,
her going in CareCure alike
Acid, my friend, no acquaintance in Berlin.
I find the dimensions of harassings me, by site correlated people, outstanding.)
Yeah, dudes, sure, it was just a virus,
that wrote me them e-mails.
(And the high speeds with which Mary & Scott reacted just mere chance, both parallel just happening to have near instantly read and replied, under a headline that seemed of no previous particular interests to either, to my reply to Angelaand's comment about having been e-harassed.)
Just some virus, yeah.
I have started to regard CareCurers some madhead club.
Including, censoring out from under the headline Pain considerations about brain sector correlations, that might have to do with it,
without even seeming to care how much is (in)significant in context with bain sectors participating in chronic pain perception with this man.
Of course, this being you and CareCure, no explanations given what is erratic in these brain sector contemplations in the first place.
Wenn ich mal jemanden wie'n Witz auf wissenschaftliche Contra-Argumentationsmethoden in Bezug auf meine Posts suche, wer fällt da als High-Scorer ein ... Grins.
Anbei, mit Kopien
kann man selbst bei topic closings, u.a. auch von Computern von Freunden, und auch unter neueröffneten Headlines in Pain oder woanders, Ansichten sehr lange wiederholen,
die primitivistisch ohne verfolgbare Gegenbelege zu Theorien, etc., wegzensiert werden.
[This message was edited by Acid on 08-27-03 at 06:17 AM.]
Meine Posts zu reposten,
+ 'm primitiven Zensierer zu sagen, was ich so von diversen Vorgängen in seinem "Verein" halte,
war doch schon immer mein Wunschtraum, wie ich meinen Geburtstag verbringen wollte.
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Nachher habe ich weniger Zeit, mich um Primitivismen hier zu kümmern,
da Verwandte hier in den nächsten 2 Stunden kommen wollen, und abends Geburtstagsfeier mit Freunden ist.
Aber wenn wieder etwas mehr Zeit ist, gedenke ich, irgendwelche weiteren Shifts meiner Texte wieder zu revidieren.
Anbei, dummsinnige Kommentare wie "acid" in der Überschrift, zu Texten die nicht auf LSD geschrieben wurden,
mögen weniger effektiv sein, als, wie damals, anzufragen bei Texten,
ob ich's O.K. finde, wenn diese woandershin kommen, oder nicht,
und es auf die zu begrenzen, wo ich's O.K. finde.
Dazu gehören vom Prinzip her keine Texte, die eine Re zur Frage eines Topic starters sind. Wo zuvor bereits Mögen einer Antwort von mir ausgedrückt wurde.
Dazu gehoeren ebenfalls nicht Hirn-Sektor-Spekulationen, die sich direkt auf das Hauptthema in der Überschrift beziehen.
Ob sich das hier übersetzt wird oder nicht, ist mir gerade relativ egal;
ich fand's gerade einfach nicht der Mühe wert, Erläuterungen zu künftigen Plänen im Umgang mit weiterer primitiver Zensurpolitik auch noch in die Sprache von irgendwem zu übersetzen, der nicht nur bei Magie-Texten (wo scheinbar eh viele Jahre weniger studiert wurde, gelinde ausgedrückt für totaler Laie),
sondern selbst bei auf neurologische Faktdaten bezogenen Texten es nicht für nötig zu halten scheint, sich einer sachlichen Gegenkritikform zu bedienen, wie z.B. als angeblicher Wissenschaftler auf wissenschaftliche Art Argumente zu widerlegen.
Allerdings wird statt wissenschaftlicher Widerlegungen von Argumenten,
eher eine Fortsetzung der Zensur-Diktatur erwartet.
[This message was edited by Acid on 08-27-03 at 11:42 AM.]