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marco25
12-29-2003, 10:04 PM
I have two children, so my minivan stays a wreck most of the time. I decided to clean it out this weekend and cleaned out a compartment I KNOW I haven't used since the summer. Anyway, I found a french fry, probably from McDonalds. Ok, it had been in there since, say, August, but it looked like it was 10 minutes old! No mold or deterioration of any sort.

Now ... that scares me. What have we been eating? It can't be real food! Any other cooked starch, even potatoes, kept in my refrigerator, starts to mold or something gross after a week or so. This was in there 4-5 months!!! If I'd stuck it in a box of fresh french fries, no one would have noticed any difference. YUCK!

When I was in high school (mid 70s), I worked at the first Wendy's in our town. I learned that Frosties are not dairy products but PETROLUEM products! GAG! So that really makes me wonder what those fries are made of ... http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/images/smilies/confused.gif

Can anyone help me here? Those fries can't be made w/real potatoes!

solarscar69
12-29-2003, 11:06 PM
Probably the huge amount of oil/preservitives that they have.

jimnms
12-29-2003, 11:32 PM
What's up with the frosties? I love Wendy's frosties.

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KiranA
12-30-2003, 12:50 AM
In junior high, we used to live off McDicks' "food", but when everyone started getting their first jobs there, word spread about what their "food" really consisted of, and we stopped eating there pretty damn quick.

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marmalady
12-30-2003, 03:34 AM
Here's the list of ingredients, from ABCnews article:

Meet the Ingredients: Fries Then & Now


How the ingredients list of McDonald's french fries changed, overnight.
Original ingredient list:
Potatoes, partially hydrogenated soybean oil, natural flavor, dextrose, sodium acid pyrophosphate (to preserve natural color). Cooked in partially hydrogenated soybean and corn oils, TBHQ (to protect flavor).

Revision:
Potatoes, partially hydrogenated soybean oil, natural flavor (beef source), dextrose, sodium acid pyrophosphate (to preserve natural color). Cooked in partially hydrogenated vegetable oils, (may contain partially hydrogenated soybean oil and/or partially hydrogenated corn oil and/or partially hydrogenated canola oil and/or cottonseed oil and/or sunflower oil and/or corn oil). TBHQ and citric acid added to help preserve freshness. Dimethylpolysiloxane added as an anti-foaming agent.


For the full article, see: link (http://abcnews.go.com/sections/business/DailyNews/mcdonalds010814.html)

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vic
12-30-2003, 05:35 AM
I have a bun that i have been saving for the last 6 months, and i can not get myself to throw i out. It is still soft and looks pretty fresh. I usually bake my own bread, but sometimes it happens that i "forget". But looking at that piece of bread i know why i should do it :-)

12-30-2003, 07:08 AM
i'm sure it's prolly regulated a little better than this but seems many of the restaurants catering to the fast and quick crowd (supposedly) can just wave a potatoe over the fryer and call it fries. same thing with the filler burgers. 1/4 pounder with cheese, notice they don't say 1/4lb of 100% beef (starting weight) with 100%dairy cheese. oh well, on those clog ur artery, hell with the diet days, it still nice to endulge. http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/images/smilies/tongue.gif

i want pizza. http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/images/smilies/frown.gif

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Chris Chappell
12-30-2003, 07:28 AM
jimnms, agreed. I love Frosty's!

Petroleum products? http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/images/smilies/confused.gif

Say it ain't so Marcomo.. http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/images/smilies/eek.gif

Lshall82978@yahoo.com
12-30-2003, 07:37 AM
Originally posted by ChrisD:

jimnms, agreed. I love Frosty's!

Ever tried dipping your French fries in your Frosty? Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm! http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/images/smilies/tongue.gif

DIGGER
12-30-2003, 07:44 AM
One even scarier,In Nov of 98,I attended a sports clinic on diet and nutrition, The theme was "you are what you eat"!. The topic was based on preservitives in foods. The speaker then produced a package of Twinkies he had carried in his briefcase for 14 years as proof ,verified by date on package!, still just as soft and spongey as day one.

Wendys frosties are great but their chili is a mystery! ack.
DIGG.

Lewis
12-30-2003, 08:37 AM
Originally posted by LindsayS:

Originally posted by ChrisD:
jimnms, agreed. I love Frosty's!

Ever tried dipping your French fries in your Frosty? Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm! http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/images/smilies/tongue.gif
Only on special occasions http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif

-Lewis

MZack
12-30-2003, 08:55 AM
Marcomo,

Thanks a lot. Now I'll never be able to enjoy a Frosty again!

MZ

Jesse's Mom
12-30-2003, 09:05 AM
Originally posted by ChrisD:

jimnms, agreed. I love Frosty's!

Petroleum products? http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/images/smilies/confused.gif

Say it ain't so Marcomo.. http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/images/smilies/eek.gif

Well, maybe this is just an attempt at someone copying the recipe but it goes like this:
1 cup milk, 1/2 cup Nestles quick, and 3 cups softened ice cream blended.

~Patrick~
12-30-2003, 09:07 AM
Wendy's Frosty mix

Milk, Sugar, Cream, Corn Syrup Solids, Whey, Non-fat Milk Solids, Cocoa, Dextrose, Guar Gum and Cellulose Gum (thickeners), Mono and Diglycerides (emulsifiers), Carrageenan (thickener), Calcium Sulfate, Disodium Phosphate (emulsifier), Artificial and Natural Flavors. Mobile 10w40.

marco25
12-30-2003, 11:12 AM
About the Frosties ... I remember everyone's horror when the managers told us that the mix for the Frosties was "petroleum based"--whatever that means! (shudder) Anyway, it didn't keep us from eating them all the time. In fact a lot of us joked that we were supporting our local oil industry by doing so. http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/images/smilies/tongue.gif

About Wendy's chili ... I thought it was pretty smart. Whatever patties weren't sold (or eaten by employees) were set aside for chili. They wanted customers to always have "hot and JUICY" burgers, not tepid and dry. I still eat their chili ... sometimes with a Frosty! http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/images/smilies/cool.gif

Thanks for all your input.

FREEJ
12-30-2003, 11:25 AM
Yeahhhh,,,,just about all the fast food is garbage. And yes, i try to eat as nutritionaly as possible, but i do like fast/junk food once in awhile as a treat. At the top of my list are ''mc'd's'' fries,,,they better be hot, or else,,,,lol.

glittergirl
12-30-2003, 03:46 PM
yup :lick:

this is yummy!!

Originally posted by LindsayS:

Originally posted by ChrisD:
jimnms, agreed. I love Frosty's!

Ever tried dipping your French fries in your Frosty? Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm! http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/images/smilies/tongue.gif

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Dec. 7, 2002 I become Mrs. Hedlin!!!

marmalady
12-30-2003, 04:06 PM
Marcomo,

Actually using 'leftovers' is quite a common practice for all restaurants, not just fast-food places. Like - well, I won't go there! http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Seriously, tho, most restaurants do use up what they have on hand to make a special, or use it in soup, etc. Common practice.

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vic
12-30-2003, 04:59 PM
Ok, this is about ugly food an aditives.. lets hear the worst people ate today (or this week if it is really bad :-))

This evening i was eating some potatochips, and i did what i have allways learned not to do.. Took the bag with me and ate from it.. So.. After a while, i read on the back of it, what these "potato" chips where made of..
Here it goes...
54% potatoes, some oil (no percentage mentioned), and 13% different spices and spicepowders ... that is about it all.. hmm, that makes hmm..hmmm...hmmmmm.... A bag of 54% potatoes and about 33% oil.. A wonder those chips are not swimming around down there... I think i should stop eating now :-)

jimnms
12-30-2003, 05:12 PM
Have you ever run across those bags of frozen chicken breasts in the freezer section of the grocery store and read the ingredients? It says something like contains 15% of a "solution." That's why I buy meat from the delli, I have no idea what that "solution" is.

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~Patrick~
12-30-2003, 05:55 PM
I did a window replacement job at the Pennsylvania State Fire Academy. At the time they had a fire marshal class going on. They would set up an office and home scenerios in their burn building, set them on fire, then let the marshals figure them out. One accelerant they used was potatoe chips! WOW http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/images/smilies/eek.gif are those babies flamable! They lit one and vwoooooommm the room was ablaze.

marmalady
12-30-2003, 06:05 PM
Jim - Um - Hate to pop your bubble, but most of those deli meats have all sorts of preservatives and flavor enhancers; unless you get the 'natural turkey breast' or roast beef, you're buying a lot of x-tra. Sowwy!

The 'solution' in the frozen chicken breasts is usually a combo of water, salt, and maybe a seasoning or preservative. Same thing that's in the Thanksgiving turkeys.

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david65
12-30-2003, 06:18 PM
Transfat,

It is the stuff that may be the worst kind there is. The FDA this year said that this must be applied to the nutritional labels. Chicken, crackers, and popcorn maybe some of the items with this transfat. I think this may be some kind of manmade thing. For people with heart and artery problems this may be a big problem. It could be that solution ingredient on Jimmn's chicken breast label. Anyone seen this labeled on anything yet.


David

alan
12-30-2003, 07:33 PM
Why worry? With the pollutants in the air, water, and the food, we have who knows what chemicals in our bodies. In modern society, it's unavoidable.

Alan

"Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?"

vic
12-30-2003, 07:36 PM
Ahaa, yet another fine reason why people should not smoke in restaurants :-) - perhaps they should write a warning on the bags, before somebody accidentially burns their dog with them and claims a million dollars :-)

Originally posted by Pat(wheelinarcher):

I did a window replacement job at the Pennsylvania State Fire Academy. At the time they had a fire marshal class going on. They would set up an office and home scenerios in their burn building, set them on fire, then let the marshals figure them out. One accelerant they used was potatoe chips! WOW http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/images/smilies/eek.gif are those babies flamable! They lit one and vwoooooommm the room was ablaze.

marco25
12-30-2003, 08:59 PM
Vic, you mentioned what we'd eaten today. I'm ashamed to say that, in the middle of this discussion, I consumed a Little Debbie Christmas tree cake at work. I have a theory about Little Debbie snack products. I think they were ALL baked and packaged in 1936. (You've noticed Little Debbie looks Shirley Templesque?) Then they've been stored in the Louisiana salt domes where our alleged oil reserves are being held. No oil there folks, just Little Debbie snack cakes that our great, great grandchildren will be eating.

[This message was edited by Marcomo on 12-30-03 at 11:52 PM.]

~Patrick~
12-30-2003, 09:02 PM
all my meat comes from the Amish place down the road. Whats on my table was in the field yesterday. No hormones, no preservatives, never frozen. Just alfalfa and corn fodder.