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the more i think about the cloning of humans, the less i am opposed to it. i was looking at a politican call it mad science and mad scientist. why? a clone wont have extra powers. what if these scientist cloning humans was to randomly change a few genes, would this making cloning ok? techinically with those few genes changed, its not a clone anymore. thoughts????????
Wise Young
08-08-2001, 02:20 AM
I have been looking at it in two ways. The first is to accept the notion (even though I disagree with it) that cloning of an adult human would be ethically unacceptable to a majority of Americans. Incidentally, I think that a majority of even the spinal cord injury community believes that this is the case. The second is to challenge the notion that cloning is intrinsically unethical and therefore should not be allowed.
In the first case, I believe that it is possible to craft legislation that would make it impossible for the production of a cloned adult human by simply criminalizing the implantation of a cloned egg into a uterus, without forbidding the use of a cloned egg for production of stem cells. This is eminently enforceable because no hospital administrator or clinician in the U.S. would risk a $1 million fine and 10 year prison sentence to implant a cloned egg into a uterus.
In the second case, several strong arguments can be made on both religious and other ethical grounds for cloning under certain circumstances.
• Almost all the Judeo-Christian faiths and the Muslim faith regard the act of fertilization as an essential step in the creation of a human. Without that step, the entity is not human. The creation of a cloned egg does not violate any religious principle because few or none of the major religions forsaw this particular scientific advance.
• The act of cloning really does not differ from the act of creating a twin. If having a twin is ethical (and nobody would dispute this), why is cloning unethical. One might argue that deliberately cloning an individual to supply organs for oneself is immoral but this is something else and should be separately criminalized.
• Most of us would not feel uncomfortable with an infertile woman cloning an egg with her own nuclei and fertilizing this egg with her husband's sperm to create a baby. Yet, this act would be forbidden by the legislation passed by the House of Representatives.
Wise
Jeremy
08-08-2001, 06:44 AM
If God made Eve out of Adam's rib, did God do the first "cloning"? http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif
Wise Young
08-08-2001, 07:50 AM
Likewise, Athena arose from the brow of Zeus. Perhaps they did some genetic modification on the way, as well. Wise.
GARYM
08-08-2001, 08:08 AM
i was talking to my mom just lastnight and she said it hurts my mom and dad so much to see me not be able to enjoy the spirit that is inside me that they would be ok with raising me all over again and letting this caged c-5-6 bird fly away home. cloneing me is closer than curing me. garym
GARYM
08-08-2001, 08:15 AM
who is doing the best human cloning and do they have a website? we know someone who would gladly carry me for 9 monthes. garym
the question is still, if a doctor clone someone but randomly change a few genes, would it still be bad?
GARYM
08-08-2001, 09:01 AM
a clone is an exact replica. garym
GARYM
08-08-2001, 09:14 AM
http://www.clonaid.com
Chris Chappell
08-08-2001, 10:06 AM
Front page of my paper. Article (full page) talking about three doctors, 2 European, 1 from the bahamas who are, despite the worldwide medical community's opposition, are moving ahead with human cloning. I got the impression that they are already attempting it. Scary or exciting?
I'll try and post the article but if not you can find it at www.denverpost.com (http://www.denverpost.com) under today Aug. 8th.
The pace of medical science is obviously accelerating.
C-YA
Chris http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif
then cloning should be legal giving that at least 1 gene is changed.