Wacky Network Problem

[duramater]

I have an odd network issue going on. I have a Linksys Wireless B 24 GHz Router to which I have two desktop PC's hardwired,and I also access the router with my wireless laptop computer. The technicians assure me my configuration is now correct and to keep my click happy hands off it, but my network will not access Google or my G-mail. When I am upstairs and can mooch off my neighbors Netgear Network...(yeah I know..whatever) I can access Google and G-mail. When I am hard wired right to the modem there is also no problem so it is not them, the ISP was emphatic about that. So ....what is up with this? This is way more annoying then when I dropped my optical mouse into a glass of water .... http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/images/smilies/mad.gif

Help please...Mary

"The Main thing in life, is keeping the Main thing the main thing...." mainlymary aka 1fine rn

[teyrn]

When you say it will not access google or gmail are those the only two sites you try or will it access other websites just specificaly not google and gmail? It really doesn't make sense unless google and gmail are blocked by a firewall as they use the same ports as every other webpage, 80. If you are having trouble viewing any webpage not just google and gmail then I would say your wireless network isn't configured properly. Enabling WEP and 128bit encryption makes setting up wireless networks more difficult and obviously your neighbor doesn't use these making getting on their network as simple as being near the signal. I would suggest maybe resetting your router back to default if possible and trying everything from scratch.

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[PN]

Mary:

It is odd that this is only affecting Google and G-mail. It is my understanding that Linksys does offer free tech support for their routers. I would not be surprised if you end up in (start with Teyrn suggestions) Bombay. If you do contact Linksys, tell them you want to turn off Universal Plug and Play. For the past few months, Steve Gibson of GRC has strongly advised that this feature is a security issue and it needs to be turned off.

Phone number for Linksys 1-800-326-7114

December 12, 2004

Steve Gibson of grc.com talks about Internet security.

To test your Internet security right now, visit www.grc.com (http://www.grc.com) and run Shields Up.

His points:

1. Hardware routers (like the Linksys) are excellent firewalls, as good as any software firewall and a lot quieter. All home broadband routers are stateful inspection firewalls - even if the box doesn't say so.
2. However, they can disrupt some services like Instant Messaging so Microsoft has implemented something called Universal Plug and Play that allows software to reconfigure the router to allow traffic through. This is a security problem - because a trojan horse running on your system can do the same thing.
3. Most routers have a check box for UPnP - uncheck it. It may break some software - BitTorrent clients, for example - but you can enable port forwarding for those programs individually.
4. There is an advantage to software firewalls - they can monitor outgoing traffic, and catch programs trying to phone home - however many trojans will disable firewall software. Best to use a lesser known (and less intrusive) software firewall, like Sygate's free personal firewall.

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PN

[This message was edited by Paul Nussbaum on 02-26-05 at 09:13 PM.]

[McDuff]

Mary,

Try just typing the ip address for Google into your browser window.
64.233.187.104 (just these #s nothing else)

If that gets you there, then there is something about the name "google" that is causing grief w/router. Don't have an answer to that yet.

If that does not work, try using the traceroute feature in the router.

Log into router, Click Administration-> Diagnostics-> Traceroute
Then fill in box w/ www.google.com (http://www.google.com) or the above ip address.
Hit traceroute (remember to hit stop or it keeps running)

This might let you know where the router "thinks" the connection is broken.

"Rather be ridin' than rollin'"

[duramater]

YAY!!!!!!!!!!

I got this idea....I stuck an open paper clip and held down the reset button. Everything went back to normal. Sigh....paperclips are good. Thanks for all the suggestions.
Mary

"The Main thing in life, is keeping the Main thing the main thing...." mainlymary aka 1fine rn

[jimnms]

I hope you set an admin password and enabled some form of encryption and or filtering. If not, eventually someone's going to hijack your network.

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Learn from the mistakes of others, you won't live long enough to make all of them yourself.

[carl]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by jimnms:

I hope you set an admin password and enabled some form of encryption and or filtering. /QUOTE]
My D-Link wireless router will not allow admin access from a wireless connection (only hardwired). That solves that problem and allows me to permit my neighbors access too.
Carl

[duramater]

I have it all fixed..thanks for all your help. I enabled security, I felt better about that.

Mary

"The Main thing in life, is keeping the Main thing the main thing...." mainlymary aka 1fine rn