Marijuana for pain relief.

[JAYCUE]

I know some people use marijuana to treat their pain/spasms. I was wondering the following.
1. How much do you smoke at a time?
2. How many times per day?
3. Do you take any meds?

I figured I'd ask before I try.

[Imight]

1. a bowl

2. Only at night after dinner and everything is done. I dont like to blaze during the day because I have errands and therapy, and it will make me lazy.

3. I only take 4ap ( I try to be as natural as possible). cant take the drug at night because it makes me hyper, thus the reason I blaze at night.


you live in NY so I assume you're going to do it the illegal way. I dont think the herb is as strong as the medical grade stuff. but good luck.

[JAYCUE]

thanks.

[powerwheels]

I've been contemplating about smoking weed to but i've always worried about how my lungs would be but i found the magic stuff. i don't know much about it because i was just given a sample to try. it's called sativex, it's an oral spray and the main components are THC and cannabidiol...so basically it's weed in a spray bottle. there are 2 parts to weed 1. the part that makes you feel stoned and 2. the part that takes away the pain. they separate the part that makes you feel stoned and just keep the pain reliever. i'm meeting with a pain management doctor next week or the week after to get more. look Sativex up on google, there is lots of info

[Imight]

Ive heard about that spray. I prefer the ol fashion way.

Basically if you want to relieve pain, get a strong indica strain like OG Kush.

Sativa is more of a head (stoney) type of high.

They do sell hybrids which come in blends like Grapefruit Haze. Its something like 80% indica 20% sativa.

[Fragile]

I've been contemplating about smoking weed to but i've always worried about how my lungs would be but i found the magic stuff. i don't know much about it because i was just given a sample to try. it's called sativex, it's an oral spray and the main components are THC and cannabidiol...so basically it's weed in a spray bottle. there are 2 parts to weed 1. the part that makes you feel stoned and 2. the part that takes away the pain. they separate the part that makes you feel stoned and just keep the pain reliever. i'm meeting with a pain management doctor next week or the week after to get more. look Sativex up on google, there is lots of info

Anyone know if sativex is available in the USA?

[pumpingiron]

2. Only at night after dinner and everything is done. I dont like to blaze during the day because I have errands and therapy, and it will make me lazy.

I dont think the herb is as strong as the medical grade stuff. but good luck.

I agree with Imight do it after dinner when all your day stuff is done then you can relax. I was on a weed study to see if it help with spasms but the dose was so weak it did nothing for me. The herb is much stronger then the medical grade plus it depends who you buy it off also i guess lol.

[feisty]

I also did a weed study (paid!) thru UCDavis.

I use the ganj for pain. I take little to no meds daily and just deal with my pain but by nightfall I'll sometimes fire up a J if it gets to be too much. It also helps me deal with my insomnia too.

I find if I wake-n-bake I'm apt to either not get anything really accomplished or I just end up smoking more all day and I'm not about becoming a professional burnout.

[JeffH]

Sativex is not available in the US but you can make a tincture that is essentially the same thing.

I start the day with it in my coffee. Really helps spasicity without side effects of smoking.
It's easy to make, simply grind up some pot (leaf will do, bud trimmings are perfect) put it in a jar and cover with alcohol (I prefer gin but Vodka or everclear works too), and put it in the freezer for two to four weeks occasionally shake it up. Strain off the tincture and put it in an eyedropper bottle. 10 - 20 drops is a good place to start for a dosage. last about four hours or so.

It's the only drug that I use for spacisity ( and pain). The effects are subtle yet effective.
I also smoke it which helps with pain but doesn't reduce the spasicity as much.

YMMV
jeff

[JAYCUE]

Does anyone eat it? I remember pot brownies in high school were hilarious. I wonder if a little bite here and there throughout the day would help?

[pumpingiron]

Does anyone eat it? I remember pot brownies in high school were hilarious. I wonder if a little bite here and there throughout the day would help? I dont know if eating it would do a whole lot unless you eat alot of it maybe. Or try and soak it in tea and then strain out the weed that might work and then you can dry it out and try and smoke it still might be good but never have tried that.

[Jim]

I used to smoke a little bit once every three weeks, helped greatly with my burning pain.

[JAYCUE]

I dont know if eating it would do a whole lot unless you eat alot of it maybe. Or try and soak it in tea and then strain out the weed that might work and then you can dry it out and try and smoke it still might be good but never have tried that.
My friend used to make pot butter and then bake brownies with the butter. I haven't seen him in a while, so I don't know if he still does this.

I saw this commercial today. They're trying to add NY to the medical marijuana list.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wARi35Jz2nM

[feisty]

My buddy makes brownies and cookies with butter all the time (I just picked up a dozen cookies for my vacation. I try to not travel with obvious paraphenalia) but you can use the THC butter to make practically anything. It takes quite a bit of stash to make the butter in the 1st place, but the effects from edibles last WAY longer than from smoking, and are more physical than stone-y.

In medicinal shops it's like $5 a brownie or edible nowadays, so it's not even worth it to buy them at the cannabis clubs.

[pumpingiron]

My buddy makes brownies and cookies with butter all the time (I just picked up a dozen cookies for my vacation. I try to not travel with obvious paraphenalia) but you can use the THC butter to make practically anything. It takes quite a bit of stash to make the butter in the 1st place, but the effects from edibles last WAY longer than from smoking, and are more physical than stone-y.

In medicinal shops it's like $5 a brownie or edible nowadays, so it's not even worth it to buy them at the cannabis clubs. THC butter never thought of that and taking cookies made with THC butter on vacation with you is a great idea LOL.

[feisty]

THC butter never thought of that and taking cookies made with THC butter on vacation with you is a great idea LOL.

that's how you cook with it...

you make it into butter, and then replace the butter for regular butter in any recipe- be it for brownies, cookies- etc.

[Imight]

you guys should try the honey. good stuff with green tea.

[alan]

I won't smoke, but I'd try eating, spray, or even pot tea if that would help.

[JRezendes]

I use it to help me eat because I cant feel my stomach so I never feel hungry.

[Fubar]

I know some people use marijuana to treat their pain/spasms. I was wondering the following.
1. How much do you smoke at a time?
2. How many times per day?
3. Do you take any meds?

I figured I'd ask before I try.


1. I smoke a bowl out of a glass pipe that fills up with smoke, and a rush hole. I used to use a pipe without a rush hole and I find the weed, a.k.a. marijuana, hits me harder and I smoke less too. If you can afford it buy a Volcano Vaporizer, it is definitely the best, don't buy any other vaporizer they just don't work.

2. When I have pain, on average about 2-3 times per day but it can be up to 10 plus on the bad days.

3. I take Baclofen, Nortriptylene, Dilantin, and sometimes Lorazepam.

IMO Marijuana is the best pain killer I have ever used. I have said it so many times and I will stick by my word until I find something better. Do you live in the States or Canada?

[dgrotz]

I smoke a bowl each morning, it doesn't burn me out or make me lazy, it motivates me and gets me going. I wake up feeling sick and all kinds of pains every morning, I hate mornings! I take my daily lyrica, topomax, and bowl and feel slightly better.

If I have it I'll smoke later in the day then before bed but mornings are a must.

feisty that's a great idea for when I go on my cruise, I wouldn't think they'll check my cookies :thinking:

[Hunker]

I take my meds 40 mg's Valium, then smoke a J and drink some wine until dinner. I eat a lot better with wine and I snooze like a baby until I wake up at 3:00 am with shoulder and/or back pain and off to work 7:00 am.

[patricks]

Warning The Following may ruin it for some:
Yet knowing this may make things more fun.

Weed effect everyone differently. (Dont recall the study on the effects, but here the just of it) Its effects peoples perceptions. Its aslo like the plesbo effect. What ever the indivual expects or believes their perception will ocurr the outcome of that belief.
(Aside from the munchies)
If User A believes it will help his pain, then it does.
If User B believes it will magnify his pain, then it does.

Example:
For Many First time smokers, They Don't Feel any effects. Yet the drug is in thier system, dispite all the physical symptoms are there. They Don't precieve any effects.


Homework for Today: After you smoke up, What ever you focus on, It will modify it. Keeping this in mind Try to Focus Strongly on something(preferibly Pleasureable) kinda to the point that you believe it. Cool things can happen. (bad too if not carefull.)
(Sometimes people can freak out. How do you calm them down? Get them focused on somthing else)

[Hunker]

Warning The Following may ruin it for some:
Yet knowing this may make things more fun.

Weed effect everyone differently. (Dont recall the study on the effects, but here the just of it) Its effects peoples perceptions. Its aslo like the plesbo effect. What ever the indivual expects or believes their perception will ocurr the outcome of that belief.
(Aside from the munchies)
If User A believes it will help his pain, then it does.
If User B believes it will magnify his pain, then it does.

Example:
For Many First time smokers, They Don't Feel any effects. Yet the drug is in thier system, dispite all the physical symptoms are there. They Don't precieve any effects.


Homework for Today: After you smoke up, What ever you focus on, It will modify it. Keeping this in mind Try to Focus Strongly on something(preferibly Pleasureable) kinda to the point that you believe it. Cool things can happen. (bad too if not carefull.)
(Sometimes people can freak out. How do you calm them down? Get them focused on somthing else)
Can Yo say this in a way I understand? I konw Weed is a good sleeper. It helps BP's. I smokes weed AB and SCI -AB was fun - SCI suxs because I need it to help me sleep.

[patricks]

Can Yo say this in a way I understand?Over useage too, has its Drawbacks...


Sure in a nutshell,
Whatever effects one believes it will have on them, then it will. (effects perceptions)

Ex. For some believe it helps them relax, Other believe its make them Hyper. Therefore It effects them how they Believe/Think it will.
Because you believe it helps you relax, Therefore you become relaxed which helps with your BP. In my case, It get me Hyper So feel the need to keep doing somthing.

[I Care]

patricks, not trying to be offensive but your info is all incredibility wrong. I could find and provide many links to more correct information about cannabis and it's medicinal uses, if you or anyone is interested.

[Jim]

patricks,

I can tell you from personal experience that marijuana greatly reduced my neuropathic burning pain. It only worked well if I used the proper amount/frequency. This would suggest that it is not perception that affects effectiveness, but the amount of THC in one's system.

As I Care said, there are many scientific studies that demonstrate the effectiveness of marijuana for many medical conditions. It is a injustice that marijuana is not legal and readily available to alleviate the pain and suffering of all human beings.

http://norml.org/index.cfm

[doingtimeonmyass]

If you can afford it buy a Volcano Vaporizer, it is definitely the best, don't buy any other vaporizer they just don't work.

I disagree. I have an Extreme (http://www.arizer.com/) by Arizer and it works great. It's still overpriced, but A LOT cheaper than the Volcano. Plus the volcano only inflates bags whereas this one will do both bag and whip mode. Using the whip (hose with mouthpiece) is efficient if it's just one person hitting it. There are a lot of vaporizers on the market. Some are junk and some aren't. Here's a good forum dedicated to vaporizers which is very informative.

http://www.fuckcombustion.com

The main reason I purchased one is so I could use it myself without assistance.

IMO Marijuana is the best pain killer I have ever used. I have said it so many times and I will stick by my word until I find something better. MJ is the only thing that really relaxes me without the side effects of prescription medication.

[patricks]

patricks, not trying to be offensive but your info is all incredibility wrong. I could find and provide many links to more correct information about cannabis and it's medicinal uses, if you or anyone is interested.


There are many studies. For ever one that says one thing, can find many that condradict it. Cant find any links to the study that I was refering to. At JH I read it in a med journal some time ago. (very interesting) It greatly explained the outcome of MJ useages and why the effects vary. In much more detail then I can explain.

Personal Example: Nero. Burning pain greatly increases for me, as some it decreases. I get more hyper. Others get more relaxed. Its different because of perceptions. (FYI. Nero burning pain increases as anxiety levels rise, I suggest tryn the use of anti anxiety meds. ex Atavan)

[I Care]

It's different for many reasons, one thing is the strain of the marijuana. A Sativa dominant strain is racey, makes you feel hyper and energetic, but I don't think it's a good pain reliever. An Indica dominant strain is relaxing, and can even be sedating, good for spasms, appetite, sleep and pain.

As far as the studies, I guess that's true for many things, but beware that here in the US, our government either doesn't want people to know the truth or they are stupid as hell.

[doingtimeonmyass]

An Indica dominant strain is relaxing, and can even be sedating, good for spasms, appetite, sleep and pain.
I wish I knew a grower or lived in a state where they had dispensaries for medical marijuana. It sure would be nice to know what you're getting or go shopping for exactly what you want.

[JakeHalsted]

dude...you can buy seeds online. don't chance it. get yourself some UV lighting at wallmart. Keep it to yourself.

Just like a womans' body...it's nobodys' business but your own

[spottswood]

I use marijuana through a vaporizer for pain and muscle spasm relief. I find marijuana exceptionally useful for soothing muscle spasms. Typically I'll do my first hit late in the afternoon between maybe three and six p.m. by this time in the day I'm getting a bit frustrated and tired with all the kicking around and lurching forward and back. I might typically hit the vaporizer two more times before going to bed. That typically holds off my spasms until around 5:30 AM.

The only pharmaceutical drug I've tried for spasms is baclofen. I went on and off Baclofen about three times (low dosages -- 5-10 mg?). I didn't feel any benefit.

I believe using a vaporizer really helps to offset the negative effects of smoking the drug. If you can overcome, or adapt to, or adjust to the psychoactive effects of marijuana -- I don't think you will find a better treatment for spasms and pain. With a special emphasis on spasm relief.

[I Care]

I wish I knew a grower or lived in a state where they had dispensaries for medical marijuana. It sure would be nice to know what you're getting or go shopping for exactly what you want.


Me too sweetie, I'm not in marijuana friendly state either. The only way to really get what you want and need is the dispensaries....or growing your own. But, that's a huge undertaking in itself. Someday....maybe all the states....maybe...

[Jim]

If ya'll are interested in reforming marijuana laws in your state, check out this site- http://mpp.org/

[patricks]

One agreable benifit of MJ. I helps you become Content with doing Nothing.. (Which is the typical SCI Life)

[I Care]

One agreable benifit of MJ. I helps you become Content with doing Nothing.. (Which is the typical SCI Life)


again....wrong hun.
I don't have an SCI and I am an active person. Not to say I don't enjoy my time sittin' and doin' nothin....cause sometimes...I really do. :)

[soundguy]

Being the FNG here to this line of discussion. I feel I have a unique perspective on this subject. I made my living in the music biz. I've traveled the world. Smoked everything from junk to Gold. I've smoked with my morning coffee to get going. Smoked just to get high. Smoked to relieve chronic pain. And a few puffs to fall asleep. I've done it in all forms known to man. My point is that any manor in which you can consume is better than none. I have many medical conditions that are rare. Then when you combine them I have gone from being 1 in 1,000,000 to 1 in 100 million. Many of my team of specialists are very pro pot. This they tell me behind closed doors of course. I live in the capital of Ohio. I can say with absolute certainty, the best herb grown is here. O.S.U. is a large agricultural school. However, if you want to grow check into the Aerogarden system. The tall unit not the short one. Save soime beans from some good bags. Learn how to clone a plant. And then enjoy. The system is idiot proof. The big key is cloning. And do all you can to change the current law. 7 countries in Europe can't be wrong. Their crime rates speak for themselves. Okay I've said my peice. Thanks for the forum!!

[GoTWHeeLs]

My state, "Not one legislator stepped forward last session to protect the sick and dying who use medical marijuana."

Damn Bible belt...

[doingtimeonmyass]

Food for thought...

If marijuana has no medicinal purposes whatsoever, then why do they have synthetic THC medications like Marinol?

Why legalize something when you can make money from it being illegal? And it's a freaking plant! It comes from nature. From God if you believe in him. It's insane.

[jenniferchristy]

Its not good for health taking drugs... some people take pain killers continuously for their pains like injuries etc...

[GoTWHeeLs]

Damn, she got banned quick...

[T12er]

I'd gladly trade in all the Lyrica ,Gabapentin, oxycodyn , and Topiramate that only numb the burning sensations and do nothing for the stabing ,stinging ,pocking,shocking, and drilling in my as# cheek ,sensations. If I just had to smoke one J , I've been meaning to try it for pain ,It's been a while ,just have 'nt worked up the nerve.

[GoTWHeeLs]

I'd gladly trade in all the Lyrica ,Gabapentin, oxycodyn , and Topiramate that only numb the burning sensations and do nothing for the stabing ,stinging ,pocking,shocking, and drilling in my as# cheek ,sensations. If I just had to smoke one J , I've been meaning to try it for pain ,It's been a while ,just have 'nt worked up the nerve.
It works.

[T12er]

It works.


I Remember it used to work for bad movies !
Works for Pain , AWESOME!!!

[Fubar]

There are many studies. For ever one that says one thing, can find many that condradict it. Cant find any links to the study that I was refering to. At JH I read it in a med journal some time ago. (very interesting) It greatly explained the outcome of MJ useages and why the effects vary. In much more detail then I can explain.

Personal Example: Nero. Burning pain greatly increases for me, as some it decreases. I get more hyper. Others get more relaxed. Its different because of perceptions. (FYI. Nero burning pain increases as anxiety levels rise, I suggest tryn the use of anti anxiety meds. ex Atavan)


Sorry Patrick but you can show my any study but I don't believe that if I believe it will help my pain thei it will but I Don't believe it will get me then what? I won't get high? Not a chance! If you get good weed....you get stoned period. I used to take Oxy Contin, Oxycodone, Fentynol, Hydromorph Contin, Oxycocet/Percacet, Flexeril, Lorazepam, Baclofen, and more and Nothing, and I mean nothing works on my pain as fast and as well as marijuana and much prefer the side effects of marijuana to pharmaceuticals.

BTW Do you mean Neuro and not Nero?

[goat]

Sativex is not available in the US but you can make a tincture that is essentially the same thing.
I'd LOVE to make a tincture, but not with street weed... Is it possible to order Sativex from a "Canadian Pharmacy"?

[adi chicago]

Damn, she got banned quick...
lol ab don`t know what neuropain caused by sci means.some of them take an aspirin and the pain they have is gone.agrrrr....

[woman from Europe]

I am not tempted for two years in an inaccessible prison.

[adi chicago]

I am not tempted for two years in an inaccessible prison.
Only 2 years ?Here we can get 10 years .I better smoke my Light Marlboro .

[woman from Europe]

For a small amount, it is two years and I loose the 12 year old boy to the child welfare. I keep to my Marlboro light too.

[doingtimeonmyass]

For a small amount, it is two years and I loose the 12 year old boy to the child welfare. I keep to my Marlboro light too.Is that a mandatory two-year sentence? That's pretty harsh, but a lot better than Thailand I guess.

[Fubar]

I'd LOVE to make a tincture, but not with street weed... Is it possible to order Sativex from a "Canadian Pharmacy"?


It might be but its not worth it. It was Way too expensive. Your best bet is to buy some seeds, a small steel cabinet growing station (which can go into any closet and has no smell), and grow your own. It might cost $1000 but it will bring you lots of relief for years to come.

[goat]

It might be but its not worth it. It was Way too expensive. Your best bet is to buy some seeds, a small steel cabinet growing station (which can go into any closet and has no smell), and grow your own. It might cost $1000 but it will bring you lots of relief for years to come.
Thanks.

[woman from Europe]

Is that a mandatory two-year sentence? That's pretty harsh, but a lot better than Thailand I guess.


I think so. We have a problem outside my house with asylum applicants selling all the time. In one week they took 75 of them and the police told us that's what you get if you sell or buy. Since I never been buying since I was 20 years old, I don't have plans to start again now. It doesn't mean that I never have smoked it for all those years ;)

[RehabRhino]

Adi

Don't Marlboros increase your pain?

Weed tends to reduce spasm and I sleep well but normal cigarettes set off a burning throughout my legs and feet.

[knightrider]

but normal cigarettes set off a burning throughout my legs and feet.

Strange, thats what happend to me too,the first thing I noticed as soon as I sparked one up in rehab and thats one of the reasons why I quit, but didn't do so until about 3 years later. Oh and obviously for my health and fitness was the main reason.

[DaleB]

weed sets my legs and feet on fire for about 20 minutes, then they go numb. i thought it was the vasodilation effect making the tingling/burning worse as i was told by a pain doc that some 'neuropathic' tingle/burn distal to the injury was related to blood flow issues. weed also seems to keep clonus in check, and almost eliminates the spasticity in hip/thigh region, if i take enough. unfortunately if it take enough to really get my tone under control i've effectively smoked myself retarded at that point.

[I Care]

"In Massachusetts voters okayed a measure to decriminalize possession of an ounce or less of marijuana (http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=are-cigarettes-more-of-a). The new law, set to take effect in 30 days, requires anyone caught with that amount of weed to pay a $100 civil fine.

Michigan, meanwhile, became the 13th state to allow patients with an Rx to use pot to treat pain (http://www.sciam.com/topic.cfm?id=pain) and nausea caused by cancer (http://www.sciam.com/topic.cfm?id=cancer) and other diseases.

"Tonight's results represent a sea change," Bruce Mirken, spokesman for the Marijuana Policy Project (MPP), a group working to decriminalize pot, declared when the votes were tallied. "Voters have spectacularly rejected eight years of the most intense government war on marijuana since the days of Reefer Madness (a 1936 propaganda film designed to scare teens out of using marijuana (http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=news-bytes-of-the-week-milk-hormones)by depicting pot smokers as a bunch of deranged lunatics, which, decades later, became a cult hit).

Mirken hailed voters for refusing to cave in to pressure from Bush White House drug czar John Walters, who had campaigned against Proposal 1 in Michigan—and from district attorneys in Massachusetts who had warned of dire consequences if penalties for pot possession were reduced despite evidence to the contrary in 11 states with similar laws. "It may take a year or two, but the federal war on medical marijuana is dead. Finished. Over," MPP executive director Rob Kampia said in a statement."



http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=ballot-initiatives-states-decriminalize-pot-nix-abortion-limits

[adi chicago]

Adi

Don't Marlboros increase your pain?

Weed tends to reduce spasm and I sleep well but normal cigarettes set off a burning throughout my legs and feet.
I never smoked pot and regarding Marlboros I have the same damn pain level even If I smoke or not.

[goat]

I never smoked pot
Maybe it's time for a toke...

[dgrotz]

|"It may take a year or two, but the federal war on medical marijuana is dead. Finished. Over," MPP executive director Rob Kampia said in a statement.
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=ballot-initiatives-states-decriminalize-pot-nix-abortion-limits

I won't be holding my breath but that would be great, I'm so tired of paying outrageous prices for beat bags, that is when it's around.

[doingtimeonmyass]

May 8, 2008 - Davis, CA, USA

Davis, CA: Cannabis significantly reduces neuropathic pain compared to placebo and is well tolerated by patients with chronic pain conditions, according to clinical trial data to be published in The Journal of Pain.

Investigators at the University of California at Davis, in conjunction with the University of California Center for Medical Cannabis Research (CMCR), assessed the efficacy of inhaled cannabis on pain intensity among 38 patients with central and/or peripheral neuropathic pain in a randomized, placebo-controlled, crossover trial. Researchers reported that smoking low-grade (3.5 percent THC) and mid-grade (7 percent THC) cannabis equally reduced patients’ perception of spontaneous pain. http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=7596

[GoTWHeeLs]

7% is all they threw out there? Doesn't the government have anything higher than that? I can't imagine smoking something that potent but i'd love to see someone high on it.

I'll stick to my swag, which I've become tired of chasing around like a hot piece of ass I cant reach so I've cut my smoking back to the days its needed.

[adi chicago]

Don`t forget the rain dance while smoking weed.Haha.

[lifeaftr49]

problem is for some of us we are under Pain management contract and if we flunk a pee test for having ANY illegal substances in our system we are kicked out of the practice. no more medications !!!!!! ALthough if i KNOW I won't be peeing any time soon i will toke :Da bit and it does WONDERS for my spasms and my insomnia from taking opiate pain meds:zzz:

[Chaz19]

Does anyone currently have any experience with Sativex? Marinol is available in my state but I hear that it is only good for relieving nausea. Does anyone here have experience with the cooperatives and certain strains that reduce neuropathic/spasticity without feeling too "dopey"?

[Imight]

I was drinking medicinal root beer 2 days ago.

best tasting damn root beer ive ever had.

very mild high tho. but it lasted.

[Imight]

Adi

Don't Marlboros increase your pain?

Weed tends to reduce spasm and I sleep well but normal cigarettes set off a burning throughout my legs and feet.
whats strange, is that in the morning. i smoke a cig and it relaxes my spasms before the medicine kick in (im sure mornings are bad for us all).

but if I smoke during the day, after meds, they get really cold and if I walk, my legs bounce like crazy. wierd.

[snorp]

The interesting point about cannibas is the various strains that could be available. Being on opioids for over 10 years, in my state, Florida, there is no other alternative. You smoke pot, you are shown the door at the pain clinic. For breakout pain, the options are now limited and usually it is another opiate. Cannibas is a known substance that can work differently with various body chemistrys, just as with any drugs. And beyond that, there are so many different strains with different effects and potency that pot is not just one med but a family of many. A huge difference is cannibas is not physically addictive. My personnal experience with both assures this as fact to me. I smoked over twenty years then went to pain meds for the last 10 years. There is no comparison to the withdrawl symptoms. Opiods equals hell withdrawl and pot is just a wish I could smoke some. I would hope that everyone invovled with chronic pain will do whatever they can to enlighted those who are anti-pot because of the years of propaganda. I do not advocate it being legalized, but allowed to be another tool in the management of chronic pain. Isn't it ironoc that for all the monies spent for pain relieving medications, a plant used before the dark ages is still the basis for most all pain relieving drugs, the poppy. And most of you all know someone (or yourself), who will take a few drinks (cocktails/wine) to help with pain even though it is quite dangerous to do so when on opiods. I've seen many who have gone the self dosing drinking route only to end up with a much bigger problem than the pain. I know by association with a friend, one of the four remaining federally supplied cannibas patiences. He gets a 3.8 potentcy, a very low potentcy. Yet it has helped him for over 40 years with no difficult problems. He has had his condition since age nine. Unfortunately, the feds are not using the program for research that counts, you should see what he has to smoke daily because of the low dosage. The point is, there are too many of us who are trying to live life with chronic pain and not all avenues are open for unbiased scientists to best deal with what's in front of us. There is so much that could be written on this subject, but I think most involved in this world would agree that pot should be available for medical purposes!
:D
Good luck to all of you.

[Chaz19]

I was drinking medicinal root beer 2 days ago.

best tasting damn root beer ive ever had.

very mild high tho. but it lasted.

Medicinal root beer. Is that something that is concocted at the cooperatives? I wonder how they keep it carbonated? I'd be game for a sixpack.

[Chaz19]

Snorp- Good points. I know that University of Massachusetts has wanted to study the various cannabinoids for years now, but gets rejected year after year. Recently, they decriminalized marijuana in Massachusetts, but medical marijuana is still illegal. A strange Catch-22. I've been thinking about getting involved with a pain clinic for a few years now but I don't want to be a guinea pig or restricted. Right now I'm looking into the Benson Henry Institute -- which is a mind-body center focused on medication as a way to relieve pain. It's sad that if I sign up for a pain clinic that I would no longer be eligible for treatments at the Benson Henry Institute.

[cdurfee99]

if one has intractable neurogenic pain, then marijuana really doesn't help, although I smoke it 24/7, since if I stop to think about my situation and bleak future, I will kill myself. What I'm gonna need is heroin, to inject into my dead skin, and hopefully nod off and dies in my sleep

[Hunker]

I can not smoke because it is against the law and you go to jail..whaaa

[TheAbleChef]

I know some people use marijuana to treat their pain/spasms. I was wondering the following.
1. How much do you smoke at a time?
2. How many times per day?
3. Do you take any meds?

I figured I'd ask before I try.

Hi Jaycue,
I've been injured for about 5 years now. I've smoked marijauana for 4 years for both pain and spasms.

Before you start smoking weed, try to find out if you can get either Indica or Sativa strains of weed. Indica is mainly for pain and spasms and Sativa is generally for mild-to-moderate pain and is especially good for increasing appetite.

If you're worried about the side-effects of smoking you can make your own tincture. A Tincture is like a Marijuana mouth wash. You just grind down the weed to powder and combine 2 grams of weed to every 10ml of alcohol. I use 95% alcohol. If you have bad pain, try mixing 2 or more different strains of weed together. 1 strain of weed has between 6-12 molecules of cannabinoids and there are 60 molecules in total. So the more you mix the better the high.

If you have any questions regarding comsumption or whatever, just pm me and I'll be glad to help. Good luck!

[dejerine]

WARNING, WARNING, WARNING,

You cannot use the alcohol sold in drugstores, sometimes called rubbing alcohol, or certain other kinds. It will cause nerve damage, such as blindness etc. Where I went to college, a janitor was so addicted to alcohol, he was draining the alcohol out of specimen bottles along the halls where biology students walked. Unfortunately for him, it was the wrong type of alcohol, and he did go blind. Very sad.