snorting meds???

[nathanjmac]

A question.. Since my accident I have seen a "treasure chest" if you will of medications enter my life. Before my accident I would have loved to have had the type of medications that I have in my medicine cabinet. Percocet, vicoden, ambien, diladid, oxycontin, and now valium. But... since then I hate medication and seem to view my medication as a meal rather than just 'taking my medication' if that makes any sense to anyone.
Now, NEITHER of the above meds have even touched my pain or sleeping problems. I took them as prescribed and nothing, I doubled the dosage and nothing. I trippled the dosage (minus the ambien) and nothing.
I had heard of snorting meds and people that had better results. I never did it. I was not into snoring anything exept a white powder, but that was back in the days when I traveled to Lima, Peru 3 or 4 times per year. Anyway, I am over that and obviously can not continue those travels, as much missed as they are:(
The only medication that I ever tried snorting was oxycontin, however, I hated it. I did it, layed down, and felt like doing nothing more than sleeping.
Not worth ever doing it again and waisting my month supply.
I was just today prescribed valium (5mg) and took as prescribed. I felt nothing. The doctor told me to make sure I was relaxed, full stomach, in a comfortable position in case I fell asleep, and blah, blah, blah.. you all know the story. I felt nothing. So, I tried 2X (10 mg) and the same thing, nothing.
Finally, here is my question. Has anyone ever snorted meds, especially valium? Does Valium have any better effect if it does not work if taken orally?
I feel bad going back to my doctors and ALWAYS saying the same thing... "this medication has no effect on me". I think that they think I am some sort of guy who searches for doctors who will buy into "I need more, give me more". Does that make any sense?
Any honest advice is greatly appreciated!
Thanks as always!!

[LaMemChose]

You are headed right into addiction hell by playing with and "adjusting" your meds that much on your own. When you begin doubling and tripling what you've got, there is a problem. Been there, done that, had to hit treatment twice to detox and get started on what was, for me, a much better road.

When you begin to look at snorting, injecting or stuffing meds up your butt (I mention this here in case any of your friends assure you butt stuffing your drugs or booze is a great bump) to get a better "effect", you're on one of the rungs in Dante's inferno and probably don't know it yet. Snorting and butt stuffing your meds is a great way to die an ugly death.

Do crap like that with the meds you may well need for honest to goodness pain management and those prescribed meds will lose any effectiveness whatsoever for you.

Oh, and in case you get the bright idea to chase what you're eating with booze, don't. You can go into a coma and/or cause severe, permanent, cognitive impairments with just one too many. (Anne Quinlin anyone?) If your friends get the idea of going for a booze enema, don't. You cannot undo that one no matter the amount of medical attention.

If your pain is not being addressed, tell your doctor. If you're looking for an opiate and benzo high, looking for a bump out of the stuff in your medicine/war chest for pain and spasms, get help. Otherwise you're gonna end up in rehab if you're lucky, and if unlucky, jail, a mental institution and/or six feet under in the cold, hard ground.

If you cannot and will not tell your docs how you're using the meds they've written you, it's a big sign. Talk to your docs honestly and openly about what's going on. Again, if you think you can't, take it as a huge, red flag that your life is about to get really ugly really fast if you don't change something.

The something you can change is you. Talk to your doctor and work with him or her to address your pain control needs.

And keep talking to us.

I wish you the very best.

[Art454]

Well you got a ass chewing there...lol

Never new there was so many ways to do drugs.

Old fuck comes to mind for me.....lol

Art

[skippy13]

Thank you La Mem for the reminder. I wondered sometimes about misusing the drugs I have been given. They never worked real well for me either. I was always too scared to change or manipulate the dosages though. I didnt need any more trouble in my life especially more of my own making. Your post should be printed out and hung in a prominent place for anyone who is tempted to misuse their own drugs. Thank you again.

[nathanjmac]

Ya, I am not saying that I am going to start stuffing stuff in my ass. That kinda freaks me out to even think about that. I don't have any friends who would even ever snort meds.. if take any at orally at that.
I was just ASKING A QUESTION. If you have been there done that, I am sorry. Sorry you have put stuff in your ass. Must have been a real low time in your life to have done that.
I was just asking if there is any benefit in snorting the meds. So far I don't know. I was not asking if stuffing them in my ass would get me high. Gross!
Thanks for your input though.

[dan_nc]

Yeah, snorting them is so much more sophisticated than stuffing them up your ass.

[doingtimeonmyass]

If your friends get the idea of going for a booze enema, don't. You cannot undo that one no matter the amount of medical attention.
Never in my wildest dreams would I think of that... but what would that do? Irreversible alcohol poisoning?

"Ass-stuffing" meds :agog::zombie: I had to chuckle although I'm sure somewhere somebody is probably doing that right now.

[triumph]

Nathanjmac:
What about hightailing it to a reputable Pain Clinic at a big hospital for a thorough evaluation of the problem....and potential help.
Good luck to you!

[betheny]

I think the point Mem was trying to make, just before she blew your mind with "ass-stuffing" and lost you entirely, is this: If you're considering taking a drug in a way not listed on the label, you need to have an honest convo with your doctor. I doubt that injecting or snorting is listed on the label.

She wasn't lecturing, she was warning. If such warnings make you all defensive, that is another red flag. You're headed for trouble. The benefit to snorting is that it gets the drug directly into your system and to your brain. It's not a real benefit-it is not the way these drugs are designed to be used.

Thinking about snorting is equivalent to thinking of ass stuffing. Same thing, different orifice, both just a way to bypass the stomach for maximum buzz.

I'd like to be a fly on the wall when you 'splain to your doc that valium didn't work, nor double nor triple dose, so you've taken it upon yourself to crunch it and snort it.

I'd recommend trying another med. Was the V for spasms? Have you tried baclofen or anything?

[danielgr]

I heard about snuffing oxycontin before to get rid of pain, so I did try it about 6 years ago and never again. I vomited a couple of times and that was enough for me not try snuffing anything again. So to answer your questions, yes it will probably take care of the pain while you a vomiting and the pain will be back when done... LOL.... Or in some cases it might make the pain worse..

I wouldn't suggest you try it at all or anything.

[LaMemChose]

Ya, I am not saying that I am going to start stuffing stuff in my ass. That kinda freaks me out to even think about that. I don't have any friends who would even ever snort meds.. if take any at orally at that.
I was just ASKING A QUESTION. If you have been there done that, I am sorry. Sorry you have put stuff in your ass. Must have been a real low time in your life to have done that.
I was just asking if there is any benefit in snorting the meds. So far I don't know. I was not asking if stuffing them in my ass would get me high. Gross!
Thanks for your input though.





I haven't put anything in my ass or chopped up my meds and snorted them. I never shot them. I did take more than I should have, just as you described on doubling and tripling the dosages. I also drank with the opiates and benzos.

In your profile you listed beer and wine as interests/hobbies. If you are drinking while taking opiates and benzos double and triple the amount prescribed, you're an overdose waiting to happen.

Again, if you cannot tell your doc you want to snort your meds because what is prescribed is not working, you've got a problem.

Talk honestly with your doctor about what is and is not working in your pain management program. If you cannot or will not tell your doc what you want to do (snorting), you have a BIG problem and just don't know it/won't admit it.

I wrote what I did because I don't play around when it comes to addiction. I don't sugar coat or lay back from it.

Talk to your doctor Nathan. If you are in big pain have a big talk with your doctor. Tell her or him you hurt to the point you are taking way too much medication and have thought about snorting. Get honest.

I wish you the very best.

[LaMemChose]

Never in my wildest dreams would I think of that... but what would that do? Irreversible alcohol poisoning?

"Ass-stuffing" meds :agog::zombie: I had to chuckle although I'm sure somewhere somebody is probably doing that right now.

Yeppers. You cannot reverse it, Alcohol poisoning happens near immediately.

[nathanjmac]

Thank you all. I don't want you get a wrong impression here. I have not been snorting meds. I tried it once and it made me gag and fall asleep. Never again. I was trying to ask is anyone else had snorted meds and gotten better results than I. I can see by all the posts that it is a stupid thing to get started in. I won't even think about doing it anymore. It seems a crazy thing to try.
Thank you all for your honest responses.

[LaMemChose]

Thank you all. I don't want you get a wrong impression here. I have not been snorting meds. I tried it once and it made me gag and fall asleep. Never again. I was trying to ask is anyone else had snorted meds and gotten better results than I. I can see by all the posts that it is a stupid thing to get started in. I won't even think about doing it anymore. It seems a crazy thing to try.
Thank you all for your honest responses.




Hey, Nathan. No worries. I commend you for your honesty in asking.

Even though I did not snort or bum stuff or shoot my prescribed meds (Me shoot? Ha. Not with these hands), I am not putting anyone down who has. Pain can make a person try all manner of things to alleviate pain. Ditto for addiction.

My dope dealer was the doctor. I was just as addicted eating my pills as I would have been had I snorted, stuffed or shot prescribed drugs or those off the streets. Addiction does not care about economic status, education, sexual orientation, ability, disability, where you get the drugs and booze or how.

I was horrified when I realized I had a problem. No one in my family had ever been to treatment even once, much less twice. Still it took what it took for me to get where I am now.

It's been better than four years that I've been clean and sober. I know this and I also know all I've got is this moment right now.

I'm not calling you an addict or an alcoholic. Only you can make that call for yourself. What you wrote in your first post in this thread sent a number of warning flags to me. Apparently Betheny thought she saw them, too.

Talk to your doctor if your meds are not working. Tell her/him honestly what you're looking to do because you are not getting relief.

You might also want to ask a pain specialist about bupe. It does not bind with the receptors in the brain which can lead to addictino yet relieves pain in many individuals. You can reportedly take boatloads of the stuff and not get the high.

Just as you've been straight with us, talk to your physician.

Here's to you finding what works for pain without kicking off an addiction.

[In the wind]

Snorting the valuim would not help. 10mg is a small doage and at that level you shouldn't really "feel" anything but you should have noticed much less tone and spasticity.

"ass-stuffing" is called "plugging" and gives results near what an IV hit would (I said near, not the same). Try it with a crushed oxy and you could end up just as dead as you might via IV. You do not want an opiate addiction on top of your injury if it can be avoided, but if your current prescribed level is not controlling pain, you might look at other opiate or related options (fent suckers?)


Allways, allways, allways be upfront with the doc. A good doc is your best ally
The hard part is finding a good doc,,

And bupe is an opiate. It will bind just as strongly as any other opiate and is about the last thing, other than methadone, that you want to be addicted to..very bad news and like mthadone, worse than heroin.

Honestly, you could just chew the OC if you wanted to experiment. No need to snort it.

[nathanjmac]

Again, thanks for everyone's input and honesty. I am not willing to crush, snort, or 'plug'. I think the best thing to do is tell the doctor that nothing is working. I have done that over and over again and everything he has given me has not worked. I suppose it is time to just see a pain management doctor and explain everything.
I am not looking to get high. I just want to lessen the pain I have. The pain has gotten worse and worse. All the docs said the pain should get better and better. I am soooo confused as to why I have so much pain. Being in a wheelchair is the easy part of this whole nightmare. The pain is what keeps me from having productive days.
For me my goal is to get better and back up on my feet. Taking all kinds of pain meds is not going to help me get better. I just want to control the pain.
What have you all done to control yours? I started with vicoden (sp?) then went to percocet, then went to diladid, and not oxycontin. Nothing is working.... whats next? What did you all do if nothing works?
Matter of fact, I think I am going to call a pain doc now.
I am just so confused and frustrated with so much pain. I am not a wuss and can tolerate pain rather well actually. But, this is overwhelming and I think that my doctors do not understand how abd it actually is.
You all are so kind for caring about others and giving your honest input. That means alot!